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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9308942" data-attributes="member: 18">A lot of this is very funny and accurate, but I think it does fall apart in a few places, so I'd disagree with:SF &gt; fantasy - but that's largely because most SF writers are so much worse at writing believable characters/emotionally meaningful plots than fantasy ones and I think if that wasn't true you'd probably be just correct.5E player wave - I think most of them are really cool, and people just hate on them because they're kids and they've forgotten what young people are like - but there is a certain kind of aggressively nerdy type common among them who is pretty obnoxious in their total contempt for all other RPGs (including all other editions of D&amp;D), and their studied inability to comprehend that 5E might have any mechanics that could be improved. 2024 5E definitely vexed these guys though, they don't know how to handle it!Superhero comics - Sorta agree but we should probably ones aimed at all age groups - X-Men was never really aimed below teens, for example, particularly not when it was most successful/meaningful (in the '80s). But I do think maybe Supes, Spider-Man, etc. need to be &quot;given back&quot; as it were, rather than yet another edgy new take.Gatekeeping vs bigots - Gatekeeping can keep out bigots, but it's also historically (including recently) by used by bigots to attempt to keep out women, minorities, LGBT+ people, young people, old people, and so on. I do think people who say &quot;all gatekeeping is always bad&quot; are being mindless, and especially those who get upset when gatekeeping is used to exclude bigots - I got into an argument with some pathetic twits elsewhere because I said I was happy to gatekeep fascists out of 40K, and they tried to pull &quot;all gatekeeping is bad&quot;, but let's be real, gatekeeping should be judged on who is being gatekept, and for what reasons. You still routinely see people trying to gatekeep women and minorities in nerd spaces to this very day. So we don't have to pick a lane, we just have to look at specific situations.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9308942, member: 18"] A lot of this is very funny and accurate, but I think it does fall apart in a few places, so I'd disagree with: SF > fantasy - but that's largely because most SF writers are so much worse at writing believable characters/emotionally meaningful plots than fantasy ones and I think if that wasn't true you'd probably be just correct. 5E player wave - I think most of them are really cool, and people just hate on them because they're kids and they've forgotten what young people are like - but there is a certain kind of aggressively nerdy type common among them who is pretty obnoxious in their total contempt for all other RPGs (including all other editions of D&D), and their studied inability to comprehend that 5E might have any mechanics that could be improved. 2024 5E definitely vexed these guys though, they don't know how to handle it! Superhero comics - Sorta agree but we should probably ones aimed at all age groups - X-Men was never really aimed below teens, for example, particularly not when it was most successful/meaningful (in the '80s). But I do think maybe Supes, Spider-Man, etc. need to be "given back" as it were, rather than yet another edgy new take. Gatekeeping vs bigots - Gatekeeping [I]can[/I] keep out bigots, but it's also historically (including recently) by used [I]by bigots[/I] to attempt to keep out women, minorities, LGBT+ people, young people, old people, and so on. I do think people who say "all gatekeeping is always bad" are being mindless, and especially those who get upset when gatekeeping is used to exclude bigots - I got into an argument with some pathetic twits elsewhere because I said I was happy to gatekeep fascists out of 40K, and they tried to pull "all gatekeeping is bad", but let's be real, gatekeeping should be judged on who is being gatekept, and for what reasons. You still routinely see people trying to gatekeep women and minorities in nerd spaces to this very day. So we don't have to pick a lane, we just have to look at specific situations. [/QUOTE]

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