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[Erekose13]

No I don't believe that Cloistered Cleric was ever proposed before. And yes retroactive changes are possible, ao'Thuir gained one of the barbarian totems like 3 levels in (not that I actually used it...)

 

[Bront]

Is a Cloistered Cleric allowed?

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#clericVariantCloisteredCleric

I thought I proposed that earlier?

Must not have.

 

[Rystil Arden]

I thought I proposed that earlier?

Must not have.

I just did a search and it appears it was indeed never proposed or even mentioned, except when you said that a Cloistered Cleric and a Telepath would be the world's worst two-man adventuring team in FoH. Weird, I'm 0/2 in past days with correctly remembering LEW stuff. I'm like the world's worst Judge

 

[Bront]

I'll put it up then

 

[Rystil Arden]

I'll put it up then

Let Solange do it--if you put it up, you can't vote

 

[Bront]

Let Solange do it--if you put it up, you can't vote

Too late

I don't expect it to be a problem. It's underpowered compaired to the cleric.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Too late

I don't expect it to be a problem. It's underpowered compaired to the cleric.

Yep, it certainly is underpowered compared to the Cleric. Still, it's LEW--things sometimes move slowly

 

[orsal]

Zounds! I thought they had voted against the Cloistered Cleric or I would have made Aletheia one. If it passes, is it too late to make the change? She would still have the same BAB.

I don't recall there ever being a formal proposal for Cloistered Cleric. What may have happened is that someone asked about it informally and got a discouraging comment about our general opposition to new base classes.

Over time, the general principle that we don't want new base classes has been interpreted more and more loosely. We've approved racial paragon classes (which aren't exactly base classes, but are more like base classes than prestige classes) as well as variants to barbarian and paladin. There is no formal definition distinguishing a new class from a tweak of an existing class; the paladin and barbarian variants we've approved are closer to existing classes than the cloistered cleric is. So precedent migth still be considered to argue against the cloistered cleric. But such precedent is not binding; I, for one, am quite open to any of the UA classes found in the d20srd and Sovelio-Sage versions of the SRD, because they are fairly widely recognized to begin with, and easy to find in sources that most of us use anyway. In addition, in the case of the Cloistered Cleric, while I do think of it as a substantially new class, I feel the archetype it represents is one worth including, and core-rules classes just don't fit the bill.

 

[Solange]

Let Solange do it--if you put it up, you can't vote

That's ok. I got recruited in an adventure, and like how things are now, so I'm ok. I just need approval.

 

[Rystil Arden]

That's ok. I got recruited in an adventure, and like how things are now, so I'm ok. I just need approval.

You made a PC with an unapproved class variant and got into an adventure before it was even proposed. That was incredibly gutsy! Props man!

You're very lucky the judges have uncharacteristically voted for it quickly--sometimes it can take months or years