General Discussion

[HolyMan]

Don't know where to put this so...

I was working on Darreo and don't know if his equipment purchases were approved. The first post of the Mystic Pearl says the inventory was updated July 27th but all the things he bought are still listed there. And it's the same with Ioseph and Cavernous Hode - they both bought pearls of power when there were only two in the store (page 26) and Systole added back another pearl from Toad in the Hole - but the first post reads there are three avaiable. But I think GE bought that last one.

Potions of Rope Trick - Says there are two but Darreo bought one and Iago bought the other.

Last thing I found strange - Scott Dewar and jackslate45 both rolled to find pearls of power (Scott rolled for three) starting around the end of April - page 23 - And I saw no post that added the two pearls of power to the Mystic Pearl that Systole and I bought from Inventory.

Need help with all this? I could find time after the weekend.

HM

 

[mfloyd3]

I've noticed a number of bits and bobs on the equipment list at the SRD site that seem innocuous enough, but are not from approved sources. It seems pretty inefficient to make a separate proposal for each, so I'd like to collect peoples' suggestions for pieces of minor equipment that are too trivial to rate a separate proposal. I'll write up a proposal with a full list, including hyperlinks to the SRD, to submit for judge's approval.

To keep this simple, I'd like to offer the following guidelines (though these are not hard and fast rules):

1) These should be non-magical items.
2) There should not be any obvious conflicts with LPF rules (e.g. items that are used to aid crafting probably are not appropriate, or will need to be modified and should therefore be part of a separate proposal).

The goal here is to get as uncontroversial a list as possible. Otherwise, we'll just wind up slowing acceptance of simple things while arguing over resolution of more complicated ones.

I've got an interest in the Adventurer's Sash from Seekers of Secrets, and DalkonCledwin mentioned an interest in the Arcane Workbook from the ARG. Any others along these lines?

Please post them here. I'll wait a couple of weeks and then compile them into a separate proposal thread.

 

[jkason]

I believe I did the last update, and used the previous update as my guide point for how far back to look. Mind you, I was probably looking more for additions, which is probably what most of us do. I don't know that it's worth the effort of digging through the whole thread to account for everything, though; I'm pretty sure some portion of the stock was randomly added (i.e. not from adventures) anyway, so personally I'd be fine with leaving it as is for now and saving the headache.

I don't know that we need a full proposal, but I do think it might be a good idea to make some minor changes to the Pearl thread to help maintain inventory going forward. My suggestions:

* PC's buying from inventory should make an explicit note in their 'buy list' that the item comes from stock.

* Anyone adding to OR taking from stock should add a "mention" for at least one of the judges (honestly, I do little enough to earn my keep that I'm fine if you guys want to make it me). I think it'd be a lot easier to bounce through the mentions than to try to parse everyone's post when I periodically check in on the thread.

I don't think it'd be a huge change or a lot of extra work, but it would help us avoid oversights. Like I said, I don't think it breaks a whole lot if we occasionally have an extra couple items in stock, but if some minor steps help avoid that, that's good, too.

Don't know where to put this so...

I was working on Darreo and don't know if his equipment purchases were approved. The first post of the Mystic Pearl says the inventory was updated July 27th but all the things he bought are still listed there. And it's the same with Ioseph and Cavernous Hode - they both bought pearls of power when there were only two in the store (page 26) and Systole added back another pearl from Toad in the Hole - but the first post reads there are three avaiable. But I think GE bought that last one.

Potions of Rope Trick - Says there are two but Darreo bought one and Iago bought the other.

Last thing I found strange - Scott Dewar and jackslate45 both rolled to find pearls of power (Scott rolled for three) starting around the end of April - page 23 - And I saw no post that added the two pearls of power to the Mystic Pearl that Systole and I bought from Inventory.

Need help with all this? I could find time after the weekend.

HM

 

[IronWolf]

I believe I did the last update, and used the previous update as my guide point for how far back to look. [/quote[

That makes sense.

I don't know that we need a full proposal, but I do think it might be a good idea to make some minor changes to the Pearl thread to help maintain inventory going forward. My suggestions:

* PC's buying from inventory should make an explicit note in their 'buy list' that the item comes from stock.

* Anyone adding to OR taking from stock should add a "mention" for at least one of the judges (honestly, I do little enough to earn my keep that I'm fine if you guys want to make it me). I think it'd be a lot easier to bounce through the mentions than to try to parse everyone's post when I periodically check in on the thread.

I think we should throw at least two judges into the "mention". Helps cover gaps when one or the other is pretty busy with real life things. But I think both suggestions above would help managing the Pearl a little easier with a minimal amount of overhead.

I don't think it'd be a huge change or a lot of extra work, but it would help us avoid oversights. Like I said, I don't think it breaks a whole lot if we occasionally have an extra couple items in stock, but if some minor steps help avoid that, that's good, too.

I agree. A few oversights doesn't break things. It could just be other NPC adventurers about town added a few things to stock.

Also to add, I haven't reviewed HM's post beyond reading it, I didn't track own all of the posts in question (page numbers tend to not match up as I am set to display more posts per page than the default). But if people were rolling for availability then those items were likely not coming from inventory, right? I suspect some people just forget to check to see what the store has in stock.

 

[jackslate45]

It's was more the opposite. At the time, I had thought someone purchased them all and felt like rolling just to be safe. Also, IIRC, the front page was not updated. granted, without actively saving each revision before updating its hard to tell.

 

[Satin Knights]

If someone rolls or commissions an item, it is not coming out of the front page stock.

I will admit that keeping the Pearl's front page up to date is at the bottom of my todo list and I almost never get through the list.

 

[DalkonCledwin]

there is a lot of hell going on over in the world of the Pathfinder Society Organized Play. Apparently the new Organized Play Guide Book (which sets the rules for the whole of the Pathfinder Society) just came out today. And low and behold 5 of the previously allowed archetypes have all been banned. Including the Synthesist and Master Summoners. This has caused something of an uproar because you are allowed to retrain your character if it has levels in that archetype. However you are not allowed to re-stat the character. Meaning if it has been built with that archetype in mind from the ground up (ability scores included) you can't change the ability scores to reflect a new archetype even though you can take a different archetype. This has caused a lot of frustration to say the least.

On the other hand they are allowing people to take Teifling, Aasimar and Tengu classes so long as you have the books even without the Chronicle Sheets now.

 

[Artur Hawkwing]

In other words, two characters enter the Dunn Wright Inn and sit down to study from the mentor's spellbook. The following calendar day, the pupil may roll to learn the spell from the mentor's spellbook with a +5 (or +2) bonus to the spellcraft roll and transcribe it to his own book. The gp costs remain the same as if he was studying on his own. Because failing the spellcraft roll traditionally locks out learning that spell for a week, the mentoring bonus is a significant boon for novice, or even veteran, casters.

Okay...I rolled to learn spells from Fae'shiel's (the Mentor) spellbook, not using the +5, in Mystic Pearl. Some confusion has arisen about if I needed to make the first spellcraft check to decipher the spell since Fae'shiel was trying to help Marcus learn the spells. He succeeded in figuring out two of the three spells and succeeded in transcribing one of the two he was able to figure out.

So...if I did this wrong-o do I need to go back and just do 1 spellcraft roll for each spell with the +5 to copy them over since Fae'shiel is there actively helping him, or do I still need to do each roll, in which case I don't think the results will change with the addition of the +5. I don't think.

Here is the post I did the rolls in. SK pointed out the +5 Mentor Assist I missed, referenced in the quote above.

http://www.enworld.org/forum/living...ne-row-venza-mystic-pearl-29.html#post5984584

Assuming that works.

 

[Scott DeWar]

ok, about learning from a scroll,

1st, if you fail, you have to wait a week to try again - as you need to clear your mind.

2nd, rather then the re-roll, you would consider the original roll and document the error of +5 in your favor and state the success or failure.

or that is the way I see it in my most humble opinion (shush Artur!!)

 

[Artur Hawkwing]

If it makes any differences, Scott, it is not from a scroll, but Fae'shiel's spellbook, which is where the whole mentor +5 thing came up from.