KaintheSeeker
Explorer
True but it is a scary idea..
But then.. Cassie was almost as bad in the old game. Very anti-registration. :d
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True but it is a scary idea..
But then.. Cassie was almost as bad in the old game. Very anti-registration. :d
Shalimar
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Wow this is the 4th time my phone ate my post. 24/7 surveilance in case people MIGHT do something wrong isn't big brother its big brother on crack with superhuman powers. Having a problem with it doesn't make Clover paranoid, it makes her sane.
I don't see how this could have possibly passed muster, especially with Pantheon out there to capitalize on such a draconian measure being placed on Elite Children.
Letting something she feels is wrong go would be very very out of character. Clover in enamored with the romanticized view of knights who stand up for the weak and doing the right thing even when its hard or it hurts. Toki, I'll try to wrap it up as quickly as possible, and try not to mention it to the other PCs, but Clover wouldn't just let a perceived injustice go.
I don't see how this could have possibly passed muster, especially with Pantheon out there to capitalize on such a draconian measure being placed on Elite Children.
Letting something she feels is wrong go would be very very out of character. Clover in enamored with the romanticized view of knights who stand up for the weak and doing the right thing even when its hard or it hurts. Toki, I'll try to wrap it up as quickly as possible, and try not to mention it to the other PCs, but Clover wouldn't just let a perceived injustice go.
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Vanifae
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Most Gov't Institutions have round the clock monitoring of some type.
It isn't being Draconian it's called protecting your investments.
Having spent the majority of my life with Gov't Institutions of some type I can attest to this. Hell every time you log into a private (business or Gov't) network you consent to monitoring most likely. This is no different if Clover has that huge an issue she may want to leave and have the Mother Land train her instead.
I am not saying it is wrong or right, but it is what a responsible Gov't agency would do with semi-dangerous individuals that they are spending money to assist. Plus with the monitoring if a student were to seriously injure or endanger themselves they can hopefully quickly respond and react to the situation.
That was the basic premise behind SARAH and I assume now Amy.
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Vanifae
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As an addendum, I don't want this to be misconstrued that paranoia in-game is not justified, it very much is depending on how you perceive the system.
Nick for instance does not see anything terribly wrong here, growing up in a post 9/11 world; he is probably used to being monitored, searched, and pretty much being under some kind of surveillance; and would see Amy as a security system.
One that seems pretty cool and can help him find food.
Nick for instance does not see anything terribly wrong here, growing up in a post 9/11 world; he is probably used to being monitored, searched, and pretty much being under some kind of surveillance; and would see Amy as a security system.
One that seems pretty cool and can help him find food.
KaintheSeeker
Explorer
That I think is the scary part about it.
That it is accepted. I mean..who defines 'need to know' and 'responsible'. It's a tightrope walk. One one hand, CCV had allowed the folks in England to track the folks that did the subway bombings.
But this is a game.
Of course I remind most of the kids I work with to think on what they think the goverment should do. (and more importantly in my opinion that we should ALL take part in the process and be informed voters and citizens) by giving them a qoute.
"Those who give up freedom for security, deserve neither'"
The governement needs to do some level of monitoring..yeah. But conversely it's our responsibility to keep the folks who do that responsible for their actions.
Rant/Lecture done.. play game!
Vanifae
First Post
That is really the crux of everything this is a game, Amy is cool, leave her be, and let's focus on the game and not the semantics of what a Gov't should or should not do.But this is a game.
I play to have fun, not debate the finer aspects of social liberty.
Vanifae
First Post
My honest opinion is that Clover's ideals would make for a strong subplot that Agamon could exploit and use for good fun in-game. She should stick to her guns, even if her ideals are way off kilter from reality. That is what makes Clover, Clover, and I wouldn't expect her to just roll over.
My only concern is that it does not spill over into an out of game frustration with something that currently is minor. Amy could kill us all tomorrow or maybe the school explodes because Nick creates a black hole, or maybe we get swallowed up by some Sand Worm... but at this point, this early in the game; to make a huge deal out of something that superficially resembles something in another game that may or may not have caused harm is premature.
In-game I am all for it, they can bump heads all day but out of game I think is not needed unless this one aspect of the game will greatly in some way impact your ability to play or enjoy the game.
Agamon
Adventurer
I don't quite understand...Amy wouldn't work without the survelience. Just like when a human eye or ear records what it experiences, so does Amy. How is it supposed to hear, let alone understand, a request without listening? And how does a machine compute that request? It's not feasable otherwise. Perhaps allowing students to use it was the problem?
John would probably have some reservations as to being watched pretty much 24/7, just due to the fact that he would have had a great deal of freedom when he was growing up. But due to how he was raised, he probably wouldn't do anything about it.
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