Generation Legacy the Next Generation of OOC

[Victim]

Oh please. How can you equate killing one person b/c intel indicates he's got some superplague with the whole "international terrorist" angle?

Bishop is the dishonest one. His philosophy is nothing more complicated than that of a schoolyard bully (I can beat you up, so I'm better than you) that he disguises under Old World charm.

He also feeds into elites' persecution complex fueled by Holocaust analogies and 40 years of Marvel comics' mutant paranoia.

 

[Aenion]

Oh please. How can you equate killing one person b/c intel indicates he's got some superplague with the whole "international terrorist" angle?

Bishop is the dishonest one. His philosophy is nothing more complicated than that of a schoolyard bully (I can beat you up, so I'm better than you) that he disguises under Old World charm.

We don't know what has been swept under the rug about Paragon's actions up to now. Maybe it's nothing but we've already seen some indication that he's willing to do what he believes it takes. They both do the same thing except Paragon disguises it under Old World charm, super charisma and UN backing. To me it seems Paragon does it mostly to fill his pocket, Bishop does it because he wants to improve the position of Elites in the world.

And it seems that Bishop is turning around a bit or he's abusing Karen's dislike of the UNJE and believe that people can change, to tell her exactly what she wants to hear...

 

[Tokiwong]

I watched the Fountain I liked it, the soundtrack is also amazing.

 

[Victim]

To me it seems Paragon does it mostly to fill his pocket, Bishop does it because he wants to improve the position of Elites in the world.

Bishop is an elite, ergo improving the position of elites in general also tends to improve his position in particular. It's not as though his position is devoid of self interest, even if he's willing to make short term sacrifices.

Improving the position of a generally wealthy and powerful minority via violence is generally viewed as a bad thing.

 

[Shalimar]

Bishop is an elite, ergo improving the position of elites in general also tends to improve his position in particular. It's not as though his position is devoid of self interest, even if he's willing to make short term sacrifices.

Improving the position of a generally wealthy and powerful minority via violence is generally viewed as a bad thing.

When that minority is forcibly registered and sterilized by the world government its not a bad thing. When that world government is creating a virus that can wipe out all the elites if it spreads its even more appropriate to resist.

I would ask the question though that since No Return kills the patient as well as removing their powers, why would the UN give the victim the disease instead of a much cheaper bullet? I guess the arguement can be made that they are doing it to advance No Return to the point where it is a viable way to remove powers without killing, but testing an experimental drugs on people seems a little evil. If you want them to die then there are more humane ways, and if you don't want them to die then giving them a potentially deadly disease is a bad idea.

 

[Tokiwong]

When that minority is forcibly registered and sterilized by the world government its not a bad thing. When that world government is creating a virus that can wipe out all the elites if it spreads its even more appropriate to resist.

I would ask the question though that since No Return kills the patient as well as removing their powers, why would the UN give the victim the disease instead of a much cheaper bullet? I guess the arguement can be made that they are doing it to advance No Return to the point where it is a viable way to remove powers without killing, but testing an experimental drugs on people seems a little evil. If you want them to die then there are more humane ways, and if you don't want them to die then giving them a potentially deadly disease is a bad idea.

No Return was never intended to kill elites, it just happened that way.

It was only supposed to remove their abilities, permanently.

It just turns out to kill most people that get it, and by most I am thinking like 98%, and yes they did learn this through experiment, i.e. elites died though the teens probably are not privy to that info, though I am sure Bishop is on some level since they were using it at Eden.

 

[Shalimar]

The turning out to kill people is reason enough to stop using it. Either you intend for the people you are using it on to die in which case there are more humane ways, or you don't intend for them to die so you don't inject them with stuff that will most likely kill them.

I'm really curious as to how James got infected, wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that the UN had gotten their warp tech working and they didn't want anyone else to copy his powers would it?

 

[Tokiwong]

The turning out to kill people is reason enough to stop using it. Either you intend for the people you are using it on to die in which case there are more humane ways, or you don't intend for them to die so you don't inject them with stuff that will most likely kill them.

I'm really curious as to how James got infected, wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that the UN had gotten their warp tech working and they didn't want anyone else to copy his powers would it?

The only thing I can say is that the UNJE had nothing to with how James got infected.

And yes the humane way would be to quit, but when you have some hubris you believe you can make it work, and if a prisoner dies you can always write them off...

 

[Shalimar]

The only thing I can say is that the UNJE had nothing to with how James got infected.

And yes the humane way would be to quit, but when you have some hubris you believe you can make it work, and if a prisoner dies you can always write them off...

Did he catch it because Kiyana was sleeping around?

 

[KaintheSeeker]

Registration/Sterilization is a valid action by a Goverment? I disagree. And the use of bioweapons (be it to merely nullify or kill) is a reckless action. You play with fire with something like No Return, cut and dried.

I quess being an Elite means you've got no civil rights anymore according the the UN.