Generation Legacy the Next Generation of OOC

[Agamon]

The Ultimates were a fun read.

More into Spidey and X-Men, but yeah, Ultimates wasn't too bad. Wasn't a fan of that hack job of an animated movie they made a few months ago, though.

 

[Tokiwong]

More into Spidey and X-Men, but yeah, Ultimates wasn't too bad. Wasn't a fan of that hack job of an animated movie they made a few months ago, though.

I meant the whole line in general.

Yeah the cartoon only touched on the issues in the comics... and admittedly ommitted the darker elements like wife beating, violence, and infidelity.

 

[Shalimar]

There is too much continuity and baggage to ever get into main-line marvel, thats why the ultimate universe was such a good thing.

Hmmm, yeah, I'm rereading, too...but I wouldn't read much into that. Even if I could get it going again, I don't think I could talk a couple of the original players back out of retirement, leaving Mimic as the only original (assuming he wanted to), and the original PCs are central to the overall plot.

Yea that'd be a real pain. I just like the fact that Lupa just freaked everyone out, she was pretty much just Rahne from X-Factor.

 

[Agamon]

I meant the whole line in general.

Yeah the cartoon only touched on the issues in the comics... and admittedly ommitted the darker elements like wife beating, violence, and infidelity.

And Tony's alcoholism. Yeah, I kinda figured they'd do that, though. The readers actually rebelled at all the darker stuff getting into the original line of Ultimates, thus it's demise. It was a bit too kiddie freindly, though. Moreso than JLU, even.

And, sheesh, they could have left Thor as a hippie, new age, tree-hugger. I mean that was funny stuff.

 

[Samnell]

There is too much continuity and baggage to ever get into main-line marvel, thats why the ultimate universe was such a good thing.

The continuity and baggage are draws for me in mainline Marvel. But I like history and fictional universes and find it a lot easier to keep the details straight because of it than the usual reader probably has any tolerance for.

 

[Tokiwong]

Give any universe over 40 years of stories, and continuity sort of becomes a mess no matter what you do. When you have the same character in five different comics about said character things are bound to be... interesting continuity wise...

Personally I found Ultimates to be fun, because it didn't pull punches.

But I can see how people like their comics to be about happy shiny people with some problems, but not like a story about social miscreants who are charged with defending freedom and justice.

 

[Agamon]

The continuity and baggage are draws for me in mainline Marvel. But I like history and fictional universes and find it a lot easier to keep the details straight because of it than the usual reader probably has any tolerance for.

I had no problem with mainline continutity or baggage. I just think the Ultimate line has better writing (aside from FF, couldn't get into that), plus it's more self-contained (I don't have to read 7 X-comics or 5 Spidey comics to get what's going on - or, to take what's been going on in DCU, their entire line for 2 years).

Wow, I think Mark was better off thinking of nothing but drugs...

 

[Tokiwong]

I had no problem with mainline continutity or baggage. I just think the Ultimate line has better writing (aside from FF, couldn't get into that), plus it's more self-contained (I don't have to read 7 X-comics or 5 Spidey comics to get what's going on - or, to take what's been going on in DCU, their entire line for 2 years).

It could be worse, you could have the Image Universe when it launched.

Wow, I think Mark was better off thinking of nothing but drugs...

No one understands him but his woman.

 

[Samnell]

But I can see how people like their comics to be about happy shiny people with some problems, but not like a story about social miscreants who are charged with defending freedom and justice.

Oh don't get me wrong, I like seriously messed up people. I'm even willing to accept the idea of sociopaths defending freedom and justice. I don't dislike the Ultimate line either. I prefer Ultimate Spidey over regular Spidey. I've got no particular investment in the Avengers, so I can take or leave either version without much fuss. Ultimate X-Men is for my money superior to what's currently being written in the main universe. It's a good team book, the sort of thing that doesn't get written much anymore because everyone else seems fixated on teams with a battle roster of no less than seventy, thirty of which are Wolverine. Not clones, not doubles, just extra Wolverines.

I just like the original universe too, in part because it has all of that history to it and in part because some of the characters I've liked quite a bit clearly only share names and powers with those in the Ultimate universe. Come to think of it, some of those characters presently or in the fairly recent past in the mainline universe have the same problems.

 

[Tokiwong]

Ultimate X-Men is for my money superior to what's currently being written in the main universe. It's a good team book, the sort of thing that doesn't get written much anymore because everyone else seems fixated on teams with a battle roster of no less than seventy, thirty of which are Wolverine. Not clones, not doubles, just extra Wolverines.

I agree with this, Ultimate X-men is very good.

I am also a big fan of Age of Apaocalypse. Blink is great, but I just like seeing Magneto being cool.

I know they have the complete Age of Apocalypse TPB out now, and I am tempted to buy it.