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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2301356" data-attributes="member: 707">My two bits regarding the sex in the series:Some have claimed that the sex scenes are "trivial to the plot" and therefore excessive and gratuitous.  While I agree that they're mostly trivial to the plot (save Cersei and Jaime at the beginning of GoT, of course), they aren't trivial to the story.  In nearly every instance, the sex scenes furthered atmosphere, characterization, or theme.Take the rapine present in many of the army scenes.  For me, it served to reinforce the realization that these are not the armies of Lord of the Rings or Braveheart or First Knight.  That these aren't the clean, whitewashed armies you see in much fantasy, that march across the plains without stripping the land of food and raping whenever they can.  The rape told me that these were dirty armies.  Sure, GRRM drives this point home in other ways as well, but the rape is a part of that.Tyrion's sex scenes helped characterize him as much as his political intrigues, maybe more.  I could see him falling in love with Shae, and I could see her not falling in love with him.Likewise the blunt, disturbing nature of Cersei and Jaime on that altar showed me a lot about their relationship.  It also served to slightly repulse me viscerally, which by that point the mere reality of their incest no longer did.  I was shocked into remembering just how twisted their sexual relationship is.Even Dany's scenes with Khal Drogo revealed a lot about Dany's state of mind.Really, the only sex scenes that I didn't feel showed me a lot were the scenes between Dany and Irri.  And one could make a decent case that those serve to emphasize female sexuality in a thematic sense.  To drive home the sexual motivations that all people--male and female--are driven by.Have you read any Guy Gavriel Kay?  He's infamous for writing novels with no villains. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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