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<blockquote data-quote="GoodKingJayIII" data-source="post: 2313200" data-attributes="member: 13804"><p>Hence, the reason I said a scene should advance character development, among other things <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I love LotR for a number of different reasons (nostalgia not being the least of them). That doesn't mean I can't identify its faults either. Reading them now is more difficult, and to be honest, I'll skip filler to move to the parts I love.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying Martin is a bad author. I think he's very good, and I imagine I'll read this book eventually (especially since I love AGoT so much). What I am saying is that there are a certain kind and amount of filler I can tolerate. As a personal preference, I tend to prefer authors that discuss sex more discreetly and less overtly. If there are explicit scenes, I judge them based on any other overt action: does it move plot forward? Does it advance character development? Is it interesting? Can I relate to it? Obviously not everything in a book is going to move the plot forward, but if I'm disagreeing with the importance of a lot of scenes in a book, I'm probably not enjoying it.</p><p></p><p>But this horse is long dead, and I probably shouldn't have scrounged up the responses to my earliest post. No more responses from me on this particular topic. Be happy to continue talking about the book though. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GoodKingJayIII, post: 2313200, member: 13804"] Hence, the reason I said a scene should advance character development, among other things :) I love LotR for a number of different reasons (nostalgia not being the least of them). That doesn't mean I can't identify its faults either. Reading them now is more difficult, and to be honest, I'll skip filler to move to the parts I love. I'm not saying Martin is a bad author. I think he's very good, and I imagine I'll read this book eventually (especially since I love AGoT so much). What I am saying is that there are a certain kind and amount of filler I can tolerate. As a personal preference, I tend to prefer authors that discuss sex more discreetly and less overtly. If there are explicit scenes, I judge them based on any other overt action: does it move plot forward? Does it advance character development? Is it interesting? Can I relate to it? Obviously not everything in a book is going to move the plot forward, but if I'm disagreeing with the importance of a lot of scenes in a book, I'm probably not enjoying it. But this horse is long dead, and I probably shouldn't have scrounged up the responses to my earliest post. No more responses from me on this particular topic. Be happy to continue talking about the book though. :) [/QUOTE]
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