Gestalt 13th Level "Terror and Blasphemy"

[Creamsteak]

Rogues Gallery is up.

 

[Thomas Hobbes]

Creamsteak- What's the word on whether the 1000 xp I expend via Kensai to improve my weapon costs me my 13th level or not?

 

[Creamsteak]

Hrm... roll d% and multiply the percentage by the amount of experience you need to level up. You currently need 13,000 xp. This will apply to everyone.

100% = 000% so that nobody can "quite" level up.

 

[Thomas Hobbes]

OK. Good way to handle it, incidentally.

 

[Creamsteak]

Serpenteeyes, it looks like you have aging benefits, but not aging penalties acrued...

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Serpenteeyes, it looks like you have aging benefits, but not aging penalties acrued...

I honestly would be shocked if a ghost did take a negative for aging.

 

[Creamsteak]

They also don't gain a benefit though. So he either gained the aging benefits before becoming a ghost (along with the penalties), or he became a ghost first and maintained his stats.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

They also don't gain a benefit though. So he either gained the aging benefits before becoming a ghost (along with the penalties), or he became a ghost first and maintained his stats.

You know now that I opened my mouth I can even find a reference in the MM 3.5 that says they don’t age. Undead speaks nothing of immunity but I think it’s pretty much implied.

I can find a few things that do gain the bonus and none of the negatives from it. (Then again they usually still have a normal lifespan.) Anyhow it doesn’t really matter.

Anyhow I’m curious how does one handle the Saving Throws? Is it by level or is it simply the best one overall?

An example would be a 3rd level fighter/wizard. What would be its Will Save?

 

[Creamsteak]

Well, a 3rd level fighter/wizard is +3/+0/+3.

The problem isn't with those though, it's with the (Barbarian/Bard 3)/(Rogue/Cleric 3)

That's where the stats get weird, because technically it would be +6 to all saves, I think.

Basically, you get the full benefit of being a Barbarian/Bard (Good Saves in all 3), and a Rogue/Cleric (Good saves in all 3).

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

The problem isn't with those though, it's with the (Barbarian/Bard 3)/(Rogue/Cleric 3)

Indeed.

That's where the stats get weird, because technically it would be +6 to all saves, I think.

A line by line of transfer would be a +4 as you only take the best at each level and when I mean the best I mean the best gain.

Level One
Fort: 2 (Cleric)
Ref: 2 (Rogue)
Will: 2 (Cleric)

Level 2, the cleric gains a +1 in Fort and Will while the rogue gets a +1 in Ref.
Fort: 3 (Cleric)
Ref: 3 (Rogue)
Will: 3 (Cleric)

Level 3, there roles reverse the cleric gets a +1 Ref while the rogue gets a +1 will and +1 fort.
Fort: 4 (Rogue)
Ref: 4 (Cleric)
Will: 4 (Rogue)

Level 4, the cleric gains a +1 in Fort and Will while the rogue gets a +1 in Ref.
Fort: 5 (Cleric)
Ref: 5 (Rogue)
Will: 5 (Cleric)

Level 5, no gain!
Fort: 5 (None)
Ref: 5 (None)
Will: 5 (None)

Level 6, Both classes have all their saves up one. No stacking.
Fort: 6 (Either)
Ref: 6 (Either)
Will: 6 (Either)

Level 7, No gain!
Fort: 6 (None)
Ref: 6 (None)
Will: 6 (None)