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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8661604" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>It's fair to care about data of course (easily gotten around, but then you don't need to get it in the first place). But that wasn't really the issue I was speaking to.</p><p></p><p>The claim was made you cannot use it as a PDF and just take it and use it where you need it. You can do that though. And yeah you might need to tweak the formatting (I was able to do it right there in the print menu by playing with scaling and margins). But even if you don't do that, you can still get everything there in usable format just by printing it to PDF. Usable format isn't "best" format but I know from experience you can get by on stuff bleeding into a second page in the middle of it.</p><p></p><p>For me, when something is free I "settle for less." If I sacrifice nothing in exchange for professional work, I automatically am appreciative or at worst silent. I can't imagine phrasing my reaction as a complaint over something free which has value to me. I generally do tend to be kind of dismissive of criticism which appears to be phrased as demands and anger over something which is free, and maybe that was just my perception of your posts but yours looked like that. So sorry if you felt I was dismissing your interests, rather than your approach. My focus is on your approach.</p><p></p><p>If you don't want it, cool. You lost nothing. I just have a hard time judging what you're "settling for less" on when there is no baseline from which you are settling and no no less to measure by.</p><p></p><p>I think if you had instead phrased it along the lines of "I think this stuff would be more useful if it were formatted like X and if it were delivered like Y in the future, but I am happy we have it for free as it is anyway," Then I would view your concerns as more important to address. But you didn't phrase it that way. Instead you phrased it like you were actually angry at something free being not just how you wanted it. Which I have a hard time wrapping my mind around.</p><p></p><p>I don't feel I was being disingenuous. I am being candid and sincere. I genuinely am not fully appreciating your expression of entitlement about something professional issued for free.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 8661604, member: 2525"] It's fair to care about data of course (easily gotten around, but then you don't need to get it in the first place). But that wasn't really the issue I was speaking to. The claim was made you cannot use it as a PDF and just take it and use it where you need it. You can do that though. And yeah you might need to tweak the formatting (I was able to do it right there in the print menu by playing with scaling and margins). But even if you don't do that, you can still get everything there in usable format just by printing it to PDF. Usable format isn't "best" format but I know from experience you can get by on stuff bleeding into a second page in the middle of it. For me, when something is free I "settle for less." If I sacrifice nothing in exchange for professional work, I automatically am appreciative or at worst silent. I can't imagine phrasing my reaction as a complaint over something free which has value to me. I generally do tend to be kind of dismissive of criticism which appears to be phrased as demands and anger over something which is free, and maybe that was just my perception of your posts but yours looked like that. So sorry if you felt I was dismissing your interests, rather than your approach. My focus is on your approach. If you don't want it, cool. You lost nothing. I just have a hard time judging what you're "settling for less" on when there is no baseline from which you are settling and no no less to measure by. I think if you had instead phrased it along the lines of "I think this stuff would be more useful if it were formatted like X and if it were delivered like Y in the future, but I am happy we have it for free as it is anyway," Then I would view your concerns as more important to address. But you didn't phrase it that way. Instead you phrased it like you were actually angry at something free being not just how you wanted it. Which I have a hard time wrapping my mind around. I don't feel I was being disingenuous. I am being candid and sincere. I genuinely am not fully appreciating your expression of entitlement about something professional issued for free. [/QUOTE]
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