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<blockquote data-quote="MostlyHarmless42" data-source="post: 8664495" data-attributes="member: 6845520"><p>Thank you for pointing this out. Hopefully the guy below reads this. To add to this there is a reason why industry standards exist, it's to promote accessibility for as many people as possible of as many socioeconomic backgrounds as possible, and it promotes competition in the market by allowing multiple applications a set standard to they have to adhere to to ensure quality of product and ideally prevent price gouging/manipulation via market monopolies. Now, granted D&D is an IP owned by wizards and they are entitled to release their products however they wish. Just as I am entitled to dislike their chosen method of distribution.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you for bringing up precisely one of my major issues with the product. As a DM I cannot make homebrew content and share it with my players without a subscription. So no. It is not "free" as you seem to claim it to be. Free to players maybe, but definitely NOT free to DMs...you know, the major people in the hobby likely to sink money into said hobby? Every dollar I have to spend on a subscription service or rebuying the books effectively a second time is money that I can't spend on miniatures, new products, or other essentials needed to run my games.</p><p></p><p></p><p>With respect, this is literally textbook capitalism, especially in the technology sector. If you didn't pay for it <em>you</em> are the product. Them allowing limited free access to their system is precisely the same sort of thing mobile games (and dealers of certain industries we can't name here) use in order to promote a taste of their product in order to ppsychologically manipulate people into lowering their defenses to opening their wallets. Buying the books on top of the pay wall is <em>exactly</em> the same as microtransactions or paid DLC in games, and people have been despising that since the day they added it to gaming. Now we can debate the exact morals of said product as much as anyone wants, but I argue that principally it's the same.</p><p></p><p>I take frustration at requiring the sign up of an account for precisely the reason I mentioned above about "free" stuff. How do I know they aren't using my data behind the scenes? Why should I trust them just because of a disclaimer on a website? How can they guarantee their servers won't be hacked and are they selling that data to any 3rd party company? This all matters.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also this. Maintaining subscribers allows one to attract ad revenue and potential companies interested in purchasing customer data and the bigger their subscriber count the the more it is worth financially.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed with the body language. Disagree that it's a valid way of speaking, and this is coming from someone who actively has to police himself from doing it. It's a logical fallacy that quickly leads to one's arguments being disregarded and dismissed outright (albeit often from those who aren't seeking to truly engage in good faith debate in the first place).</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's treated that way because again, not everyone can always have access to top of the line electronics or internet 24/7. Just because <em>you</em> can afford that doesn't mean everyone can. Pdf files are nearly universally accessible with any sort of device, do not require internet or a web browser, and again, <em>cannot be taken away from you at any point.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MostlyHarmless42, post: 8664495, member: 6845520"] Thank you for pointing this out. Hopefully the guy below reads this. To add to this there is a reason why industry standards exist, it's to promote accessibility for as many people as possible of as many socioeconomic backgrounds as possible, and it promotes competition in the market by allowing multiple applications a set standard to they have to adhere to to ensure quality of product and ideally prevent price gouging/manipulation via market monopolies. Now, granted D&D is an IP owned by wizards and they are entitled to release their products however they wish. Just as I am entitled to dislike their chosen method of distribution. Thank you for bringing up precisely one of my major issues with the product. As a DM I cannot make homebrew content and share it with my players without a subscription. So no. It is not "free" as you seem to claim it to be. Free to players maybe, but definitely NOT free to DMs...you know, the major people in the hobby likely to sink money into said hobby? Every dollar I have to spend on a subscription service or rebuying the books effectively a second time is money that I can't spend on miniatures, new products, or other essentials needed to run my games. With respect, this is literally textbook capitalism, especially in the technology sector. If you didn't pay for it [I]you[/I] are the product. Them allowing limited free access to their system is precisely the same sort of thing mobile games (and dealers of certain industries we can't name here) use in order to promote a taste of their product in order to ppsychologically manipulate people into lowering their defenses to opening their wallets. Buying the books on top of the pay wall is [I]exactly[/I] the same as microtransactions or paid DLC in games, and people have been despising that since the day they added it to gaming. Now we can debate the exact morals of said product as much as anyone wants, but I argue that principally it's the same. I take frustration at requiring the sign up of an account for precisely the reason I mentioned above about "free" stuff. How do I know they aren't using my data behind the scenes? Why should I trust them just because of a disclaimer on a website? How can they guarantee their servers won't be hacked and are they selling that data to any 3rd party company? This all matters. Also this. Maintaining subscribers allows one to attract ad revenue and potential companies interested in purchasing customer data and the bigger their subscriber count the the more it is worth financially. Agreed with the body language. Disagree that it's a valid way of speaking, and this is coming from someone who actively has to police himself from doing it. It's a logical fallacy that quickly leads to one's arguments being disregarded and dismissed outright (albeit often from those who aren't seeking to truly engage in good faith debate in the first place). It's treated that way because again, not everyone can always have access to top of the line electronics or internet 24/7. Just because [I]you[/I] can afford that doesn't mean everyone can. Pdf files are nearly universally accessible with any sort of device, do not require internet or a web browser, and again, [I]cannot be taken away from you at any point.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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