GF9 to produce official D&D stuff

[catsclaw227]

Hmm after looking at the contents of their first offering, I wonder how well thought out it is. Most of their counters are designed to sit adjacent to the miniature base. As those that use miniatures know, most fights involve a lot of melee and movement... and these counters will just get in the way... plus one will have to replace them constantly.

No kidding.... this makes them practically useless. Now, if they are transitioning from DDM minis to pogs or counters, then these are more useful, just plop them on top.

BTW -- I picked up the adventure for the PHB3 GameDay and there was a big difference... No player minis (that I could see), and there were counters for monsters. Looks like WOTC may be going the way of counters instead of minis. It would cost a heck of a lot less to manufacture and they'd be a lot less expensive too.

 

[catsclaw227]

I have thought for some time now that WotC would be smart to create interlocking, round condition markers that fit directly under their DDM bases (or even click into the bases) so that a miniature and its attendant markers can be picked up and moved around as one piece during play. GF9 looks like they are equipped to do something like that. I hope they refine their current design a little.

They'd have to fit directly underneath to avoid fighting with adjacent minis for table space.

And in that case, just use Alea Tools magnetic discs. These can even work with counters.

 

[Ourph]

They'd have to fit directly underneath to avoid fighting with adjacent minis for table space.

And in that case, just use Alea Tools magnetic discs. These can even work with counters.

The Alea Tools magnetic discs are exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about except that the magnetic discs don't stick to the bottom of the plastic DDM minis the way I'm imagining the "click-in-able" plastic ones could.

The Alea Tools stuff is great and I'm surprised WotC haven't come up with a competing product so they can get in on the action. If a box of plastic condition markers were available right alongside DDM minis at the FLGS, I imagine a lot of 4e players would be picking them up.

 

[Insight]

I'd be happy to find a good, reliable source of LARGE game mats.

 

[Kzach]

Whenever I build scenarios for minis with cardstock, I always use 1.5" squares instead of 1" squares because I feel it's both more realistic and far easier to play on.

But even then, I wouldn't use those tokens simply due to the hassle of picking them up all the time. Seriously bad idea.

 

[Dire Bare]

I'll disagree with some of the posters above . . . I think this new set of DM's Tokens rocks! I'm excited to pick up a set.

Granted, it would be neat for some sort of nifty system to fit under the miniature and travel with the miniature . . . but this would translate into a more expensive product. For simple tokens, I think these are great! And I love the packaging! A neat wooden box for your tokens, dice, etc, with a lid that doubles as a dice tray! That is very cool.

I'm not worried about tokens "getting in the way" of combat, these tokens won't get in the way anymore or less than other tokens . . . and if it bothers you, then you are not the target demographic for a box of D&D tokens! Tokens that clip onto the base in some fashion would be cool, but again more expensive, and D&D pre-painted minis have bendy bases often warped a bit and it'd be a pain trying to keep your tokens attached (in my imagination, at least).

The "true" D&D hobbyist will probably be rebasing his mini's and using Alea Tools (awesome product) anyway, this token set fits a need for those of us who are not as industrious.

 

[Dire Bare]

BTW -- I picked up the adventure for the PHB3 GameDay and there was a big difference... No player minis (that I could see), and there were counters for monsters. Looks like WOTC may be going the way of counters instead of minis. It would cost a heck of a lot less to manufacture and they'd be a lot less expensive too.

I really doubt that WotC is abandoning minis just yet (although that might happen eventually). The info on GF9's token set specifically mentions the tokens compatibility with minis, and in their own products WotC isn't abandoning minis but rather switching to a "mixed" model of both tokens and minis.

But for D&D Encounters, D&D Game Day, and other such promotions, tokens are replacing minis in the official material given to stores. Saves both in costs and more importantly in time . . . planning to include appropriate minis with a game day module takes a lot more preplanning and time than printed cardstock tokens.

 

[Kzach]

I really doubt that WotC is abandoning minis just yet (although that might happen eventually). The info on GF9's token set specifically mentions the tokens compatibility with minis, and in their own products WotC isn't abandoning minis but rather switching to a "mixed" model of both tokens and minis.

Compatible? They're bits of cardboard that don't attach or fit the minis in any way, shape or form; they just sit underneath it which isn't exactly a revolutionary idea.

I'm releasing a new product. They're paper chits. They're fully compatible with the D&D minis though...

 

[Dire Bare]

Compatible? They're bits of cardboard that don't attach or fit the minis in any way, shape or form; they just sit underneath it which isn't exactly a revolutionary idea.

I'm releasing a new product. They're paper chits. They're fully compatible with the D&D minis though...

Read the product information and release thy ignorance.

 

[Jack99]

Read the product information and release thy ignorance.

Could you clarify what you are implying? I looked at the page, and the text says that the condition markers wrap around the minis, but the picture shows them laying around the base of the mini, taking up a lot of space (IMO).

I must admit that I would love to buy stuff from these guys, but it looks fairly useless as the product is presented currently.