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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheGogmagog" data-source="post: 2781706" data-attributes="member: 27702">If LA - is the same as LA 0, then the ECL would be 10 for the HD.The OP is correct the light ray does not give details.  Note will-o-whisp also have a light ray that seems the same except the damage done.  I recall I had some critical issue with it, perhaps against undead or even vampires.  The issue never came up in game, but I never did find any clarification on light ray.  I think I was going to manage it like searing light.Edit: I don't know much about monsterous races, so I don't know if this is important.  Note they advance in HD, not by class.</blockquote>