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<blockquote data-quote="Ferrix" data-source="post: 1842686" data-attributes="member: 6115"><p>Just a note, the new complete arcane has a new spell called Superior Invisibility which doesn't even make someone invisible to blindsight and it's a 9th level wizard spell.</p><p></p><p>Other comments however:</p><p></p><p>See to me a spell that didn't cover sound, smell, etc. wouldn't have a chance of covering detection by blindsense/sight. It's just nonsensical to me.</p><p></p><p>Particularly because blindsense/sight relies a great deal on many of those sensations: tactile sensitivity (vibrations in the air and through the ground), touchsight for example emits a psychokinetic field which literally touches everything within line of effect to the person using it. So you'd have to negate tactile senses too (which to me means incorporeality or etherealness). Sonar types, again meaning you'd probably have to be incorporeal or ethereal to avoid that one effectively. Smell often plays a large part too, as well as whisker type senses which are more of a 6th sense type (studies of cats and other whiskered animals shows that the whiskers are actually part of a different sensory type than the standard five).</p><p></p><p>Don't really know about this still.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ferrix, post: 1842686, member: 6115"] Just a note, the new complete arcane has a new spell called Superior Invisibility which doesn't even make someone invisible to blindsight and it's a 9th level wizard spell. Other comments however: See to me a spell that didn't cover sound, smell, etc. wouldn't have a chance of covering detection by blindsense/sight. It's just nonsensical to me. Particularly because blindsense/sight relies a great deal on many of those sensations: tactile sensitivity (vibrations in the air and through the ground), touchsight for example emits a psychokinetic field which literally touches everything within line of effect to the person using it. So you'd have to negate tactile senses too (which to me means incorporeality or etherealness). Sonar types, again meaning you'd probably have to be incorporeal or ethereal to avoid that one effectively. Smell often plays a large part too, as well as whisker type senses which are more of a 6th sense type (studies of cats and other whiskered animals shows that the whiskers are actually part of a different sensory type than the standard five). Don't really know about this still. [/QUOTE]
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