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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ferrix" data-source="post: 1843225" data-attributes="member: 6115">Heheh... I just think that with the ability to get your hide check up to around +120 or so using improvisation gives you more than enough ability to get around blindsense/sight even with the penalties listed by Isida.  Particularly if you get creative using your environment or by asking for help from your fellow adventurers which just goes to show that sometimes you can't do everything on your own.  I atleast, and I imagine Pilmer can make use of Etherealness.Sometimes blindsight, like in the case of the psionic touchsight power is actually not related very specifically to the 5 basic senses.  Other creatures have a collaboration of the 5 senses to get blindsight.  Basically, I think going with a spell which is targeted would be the only way I could see negating something so specific to a creature.</blockquote>