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Githzerai Psion? Thri-kreen Psion? Where's My Psion?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9579224" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Nah.</p><p></p><p>If that's the intent, Sorcerers are a total and complete failure. Like absolute failure.</p><p></p><p>None of those characters function even slightly like a D&D Sorcerer.</p><p></p><p>A D&D Sorcerer has to access to a wide variety of completely unrelated spells, with a loose theme-ing that it doesn't have to follow and in a lot of cases, it would be actively a bad idea to follow. Further, casting spells for a Sorcerer doesn't require physical effort or kata or the like.</p><p></p><p></p><p>D&D's magic system completely flubs it if that is the intent, but let me be clear - it isn't the intent. That's backfill/retcon.</p><p></p><p>The INTENT is to just provide an alternative to Wizards who MECHANICALLY (and this is more important to the designers than literally anything else) doesn't need to memorize spells. The flavour stuff is absolute backfill. They didn't look at someone like Storm or Elsa and say "We need Sorcerers to be like Storm and Elsa", they said "Well we have this class exists solely for mechanical reasons, what theme can we grab for it?".</p><p></p><p>This is really obviously when you stop firing the Neuralyzer from Men In Black at yourself and remember 3.XE. I know these may be painful memories! Once you stop retcon'ing D&D's Sorcerers, you see they're a dreadful example of coming up with mechanics and THEN needing to theme them.</p><p></p><p>If 5E's designers had been braver (but I understand why they weren't), they'd have just made Wizard a subclass of Sorcerer, where the spellbook just widened how many spells they could access.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is simply not true. In most fantasy settings you need to be essentially a Sorcerer in order to become a Wizard ("gnostic tomes" is basically urban fantasy/horror stuff). A Wizard is in those settings simply a developed form of a Sorcerer. Your spellcaster will have like "raw magic" and be able to do stuff instinctively, then will be trained/tamed into being a wizard.</p><p></p><p>In D&D that's not the case at all, because D&D is a weird mess.</p><p></p><p>It's already made a mess with Sorcerers. Don't make it make another mess by trying to jam the large square peg of Psion through the round hole of Sorcerer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9579224, member: 18"] Nah. If that's the intent, Sorcerers are a total and complete failure. Like absolute failure. None of those characters function even slightly like a D&D Sorcerer. A D&D Sorcerer has to access to a wide variety of completely unrelated spells, with a loose theme-ing that it doesn't have to follow and in a lot of cases, it would be actively a bad idea to follow. Further, casting spells for a Sorcerer doesn't require physical effort or kata or the like. D&D's magic system completely flubs it if that is the intent, but let me be clear - it isn't the intent. That's backfill/retcon. The INTENT is to just provide an alternative to Wizards who MECHANICALLY (and this is more important to the designers than literally anything else) doesn't need to memorize spells. The flavour stuff is absolute backfill. They didn't look at someone like Storm or Elsa and say "We need Sorcerers to be like Storm and Elsa", they said "Well we have this class exists solely for mechanical reasons, what theme can we grab for it?". This is really obviously when you stop firing the Neuralyzer from Men In Black at yourself and remember 3.XE. I know these may be painful memories! Once you stop retcon'ing D&D's Sorcerers, you see they're a dreadful example of coming up with mechanics and THEN needing to theme them. If 5E's designers had been braver (but I understand why they weren't), they'd have just made Wizard a subclass of Sorcerer, where the spellbook just widened how many spells they could access. This is simply not true. In most fantasy settings you need to be essentially a Sorcerer in order to become a Wizard ("gnostic tomes" is basically urban fantasy/horror stuff). A Wizard is in those settings simply a developed form of a Sorcerer. Your spellcaster will have like "raw magic" and be able to do stuff instinctively, then will be trained/tamed into being a wizard. In D&D that's not the case at all, because D&D is a weird mess. It's already made a mess with Sorcerers. Don't make it make another mess by trying to jam the large square peg of Psion through the round hole of Sorcerer. [/QUOTE]
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