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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9579244" data-attributes="member: 18">Yeah I remember well. We'll never know how popular it was, but it sure seemed very popular, and WotC never said otherwise. But they just reverted to the 3E Sorcerer without even playtesting that. Had they playtested it, I guarantee, stone-cold 100% guarantee, it would have been less popular than the strongly-themed version. There's no question in my mind on that, and I think its strongly borne out by later discussion of the class (including from WotC people!).But they had two constraints:1) They were in a gigantic rush. So literally didn't have time for another proper playtest, they had to get something out.2) 5E was an "apology edition" for Getting Weird With It with 4E, and so any class which was a huge change from earlier takes was a big risk. We're pretty lucky we got the full-caster Bard even - I suspect that connects to how they were in 2E (where they weren't full casters, but they advanced so fast compared to Mages, they almost might as well have been!).</blockquote>