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Githzerai Psion? Thri-kreen Psion? Where's My Psion?
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9583937" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Well, I'm glad at least one person recognizes how utterly crap-awful WotC is at collecting survey data.</p><p></p><p>But I don't personally think your conclusion is actually accurate. Even if they <em>did</em> ask whether folks were okay or not, I have seen far, far too much vehement opposition. Folks who are <em>merely</em> okay with something rarely speak up. You have to have sufficient active, overt enthusiasm or it just won't cross that line. Getting 70% approval before you even <em>begin iterating</em> is just too high a bar for Psionics.</p><p></p><p>Hell, in a real sense it was too high a bar for <em>D&D Next</em>, which is what instituted that ridiculous standard to begin with!</p><p></p><p>I've encountered far too many people who are too <em>invested</em> in their vision of what "true" psionics should be--and we've seen at least a couple of those people in this very thread. And you <em>always</em> have the class minimalists who will rail against whatever you do no matter what, which add an inherent negative pressure that has to be overcome by greater positive pressure, not just "yeah, it's alright, sure" non-pressure.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, by that standard, the difference between Pact magic and martial maneuvers is "literal semantics" because they're both per-short-rest resources that you get more of over time. The descriptions matter for the same reason any descriptions matter: we do not merely play Symbols & Spreadsheets.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, I'm quite well aware that absolutely ZERO overlap would be pretty much impossible, and most folks who like psionics are also aware of this fact. But we've seen how one person in this thread is already annoyed by the idea of psionics that is simultaneously both (a) sci-fi flavored rather than pure "it's literally just another form of spellcasting" flavored, <em>and</em> (b) using any mechanics that aren't just Also Spellcasting, because some spells exist that do psionic-related things.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay? That has no impact on whether they can come into agreement <em>right here and now</em>. Which is why I claimed that (I believe) WotC needs to <em>pick</em> something and stick with it rather than instantly giving it up the moment it doesn't cross the threshold.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9583937, member: 6790260"] Well, I'm glad at least one person recognizes how utterly crap-awful WotC is at collecting survey data. But I don't personally think your conclusion is actually accurate. Even if they [I]did[/I] ask whether folks were okay or not, I have seen far, far too much vehement opposition. Folks who are [I]merely[/I] okay with something rarely speak up. You have to have sufficient active, overt enthusiasm or it just won't cross that line. Getting 70% approval before you even [I]begin iterating[/I] is just too high a bar for Psionics. Hell, in a real sense it was too high a bar for [I]D&D Next[/I], which is what instituted that ridiculous standard to begin with! I've encountered far too many people who are too [I]invested[/I] in their vision of what "true" psionics should be--and we've seen at least a couple of those people in this very thread. And you [I]always[/I] have the class minimalists who will rail against whatever you do no matter what, which add an inherent negative pressure that has to be overcome by greater positive pressure, not just "yeah, it's alright, sure" non-pressure. I mean, by that standard, the difference between Pact magic and martial maneuvers is "literal semantics" because they're both per-short-rest resources that you get more of over time. The descriptions matter for the same reason any descriptions matter: we do not merely play Symbols & Spreadsheets. Oh, I'm quite well aware that absolutely ZERO overlap would be pretty much impossible, and most folks who like psionics are also aware of this fact. But we've seen how one person in this thread is already annoyed by the idea of psionics that is simultaneously both (a) sci-fi flavored rather than pure "it's literally just another form of spellcasting" flavored, [I]and[/I] (b) using any mechanics that aren't just Also Spellcasting, because some spells exist that do psionic-related things. Okay? That has no impact on whether they can come into agreement [I]right here and now[/I]. Which is why I claimed that (I believe) WotC needs to [I]pick[/I] something and stick with it rather than instantly giving it up the moment it doesn't cross the threshold. [/QUOTE]
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