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Githzerai Psion? Thri-kreen Psion? Where's My Psion?
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9584980" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Well, 13 of them already exist, Artificer + 12 PHB classes.</p><p></p><p>The others, with varying degrees of likelihood for actually getting developed as actual classes, are:</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Missing Class Fantasies"]</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alchemist†, the chemist-as-magician, who uses magical ingredients and concoctions to control the world...or themselves.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Assassin†, the warrior-of-shadow, whose skill with all the subtle ways to stalk (and un-alive) someone transcends mortal limits.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Avenger†, the warrior-of-zeal, whose absolute focus is both shield and sword against their enemies, who executes the turncoat apostate.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Invoker, the emissary-as-magician, who calls down disaster upon the foes of the faith, Elijah calling fire down against the altar of Baal.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Machinist" (not my fav name), the warrior-of-technology, who uses guns, machines, and tools to overcome their foes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Psion† (etc.), the telepath-as-magician, who draws on ESP, the paranormal, occult "science" etc. to bend the rules of reality in their favor.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Shaman, the spiritualist-as-magician, who straddles the line between material and spirit, the bridge connecting these realms.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Summoner, the overseer-as-magician, whose magic lies in getting other beings to use magic for her.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Swordmage†, the warrior-as-magician, for whom swordplay <em>is</em> magic, and magic <em>is</em> swordplay (or other weapons), one and inseparable.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Warden, the warrior-of-the-land, who wears Nature's power like a cloak, and wreaks Her wrath where he walks.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Warlord†, the warrior-of-tactics, who transcends limits by cooperating with others rather than purely through her own mettle.</li> </ul><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p>Those marked with a dagger are the ones I think somewhat more likely to get implemented in 5.5e--but "somewhat" is doing some heavy lifting there.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind, 4e had 25 total classes, including things like Vampire that I'm not sure really should've been their own classes, and things like Seeker which were just Not Very Good both thematically and mechanically. Almost all of them have equivalent or near-equivalent classes in 3.5e and/or PF1e...but that's because those games have a <strong><em>LOT</em></strong> more than 25 proper classes; even if you ignore its "hybrid" and "alternate" classes, there are 29 different base classes for PF1e. (Adding those, it's somewhere in the 40s!)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9584980, member: 6790260"] Well, 13 of them already exist, Artificer + 12 PHB classes. The others, with varying degrees of likelihood for actually getting developed as actual classes, are: [SPOILER="Missing Class Fantasies"] [LIST] [*]Alchemist†, the chemist-as-magician, who uses magical ingredients and concoctions to control the world...or themselves. [*]Assassin†, the warrior-of-shadow, whose skill with all the subtle ways to stalk (and un-alive) someone transcends mortal limits. [*]Avenger†, the warrior-of-zeal, whose absolute focus is both shield and sword against their enemies, who executes the turncoat apostate. [*]Invoker, the emissary-as-magician, who calls down disaster upon the foes of the faith, Elijah calling fire down against the altar of Baal. [*]"Machinist" (not my fav name), the warrior-of-technology, who uses guns, machines, and tools to overcome their foes. [*]Psion† (etc.), the telepath-as-magician, who draws on ESP, the paranormal, occult "science" etc. to bend the rules of reality in their favor. [*]Shaman, the spiritualist-as-magician, who straddles the line between material and spirit, the bridge connecting these realms. [*]Summoner, the overseer-as-magician, whose magic lies in getting other beings to use magic for her. [*]Swordmage†, the warrior-as-magician, for whom swordplay [I]is[/I] magic, and magic [I]is[/I] swordplay (or other weapons), one and inseparable. [*]Warden, the warrior-of-the-land, who wears Nature's power like a cloak, and wreaks Her wrath where he walks. [*]Warlord†, the warrior-of-tactics, who transcends limits by cooperating with others rather than purely through her own mettle. [/LIST] [/SPOILER] Those marked with a dagger are the ones I think somewhat more likely to get implemented in 5.5e--but "somewhat" is doing some heavy lifting there. Keep in mind, 4e had 25 total classes, including things like Vampire that I'm not sure really should've been their own classes, and things like Seeker which were just Not Very Good both thematically and mechanically. Almost all of them have equivalent or near-equivalent classes in 3.5e and/or PF1e...but that's because those games have a [B][I]LOT[/I][/B] more than 25 proper classes; even if you ignore its "hybrid" and "alternate" classes, there are 29 different base classes for PF1e. (Adding those, it's somewhere in the 40s!) [/QUOTE]
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