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Githzerai Psion? Thri-kreen Psion? Where's My Psion?
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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9593352" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>I view both power sources − Psionic and Primal − as coming from the soul. Both are strongly animistic. Both utilize the ki, spirit, and mind. But they distinguish thematically. Psionic is more human, body altering, telekinetic and dimensional, while Primal is more elemental and plant altering, wielding energies, and fabricating objects and structures.</p><p></p><p>Where "Pyrokinesis" uses the "mind" to manipulate elemental fire, this is still Primal.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree. A Psion class plus judicious Psionic subclasses for other classes is a great approach.</p><p></p><p>I hope the Psion is a 3e-ish fullcaster, but using a 5e Warlock chassis.</p><p></p><p>I suspect the 2e-ish Psionicist might work well as a Rogue subclass, using a skill system for Psionic instead of a spell point system.</p><p></p><p>The 5e feats already have the 1e-ish powers covered.</p><p></p><p></p><p>2024 seems to make the Monk class more clearly Martial (without mentioning "ki"). But Monk subclasses can be Psionic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>For me, Psionic is all about ones own self being the power source. So I dont see the connection with the Farrealm, except that some of them happen to be Psionic too. As aspects of thoughtscapes, Angels, Fiends, and Aberrations are all Psionic for similar reasons.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Too be honest, 5e kept the good aspects of the 4e cosmology. 5e has the salient Feywild and Shadowfell, but additionally returned the Ethereal from earlier editions, which I feel works better in the new ensemble. The shape of the 5e "circle" cosmology feels more pleasing in a jungian mandala way.</p><p></p><p>You are probably right that the delay of Dark Sun is mainly about how to do the Psion. I was surprised to see 2024 mention Dark Sun. Perhaps this indicates a more confident way forward for how to design the Psion? I prefer the 5e Psion class being in a Tashas-esque rules expansion, so it doesnt get tied too tightly to any particular setting. Several setting need the Psion class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9593352, member: 58172"] I view both power sources − Psionic and Primal − as coming from the soul. Both are strongly animistic. Both utilize the ki, spirit, and mind. But they distinguish thematically. Psionic is more human, body altering, telekinetic and dimensional, while Primal is more elemental and plant altering, wielding energies, and fabricating objects and structures. Where "Pyrokinesis" uses the "mind" to manipulate elemental fire, this is still Primal. I agree. A Psion class plus judicious Psionic subclasses for other classes is a great approach. I hope the Psion is a 3e-ish fullcaster, but using a 5e Warlock chassis. I suspect the 2e-ish Psionicist might work well as a Rogue subclass, using a skill system for Psionic instead of a spell point system. The 5e feats already have the 1e-ish powers covered. 2024 seems to make the Monk class more clearly Martial (without mentioning "ki"). But Monk subclasses can be Psionic. For me, Psionic is all about ones own self being the power source. So I dont see the connection with the Farrealm, except that some of them happen to be Psionic too. As aspects of thoughtscapes, Angels, Fiends, and Aberrations are all Psionic for similar reasons. Too be honest, 5e kept the good aspects of the 4e cosmology. 5e has the salient Feywild and Shadowfell, but additionally returned the Ethereal from earlier editions, which I feel works better in the new ensemble. The shape of the 5e "circle" cosmology feels more pleasing in a jungian mandala way. You are probably right that the delay of Dark Sun is mainly about how to do the Psion. I was surprised to see 2024 mention Dark Sun. Perhaps this indicates a more confident way forward for how to design the Psion? I prefer the 5e Psion class being in a Tashas-esque rules expansion, so it doesnt get tied too tightly to any particular setting. Several setting need the Psion class. [/QUOTE]
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