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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6049426" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>As a player, I tend to use alignment as a tool in defining and developing a character personality.</p><p></p><p>One Chaotic type might be the determined free spirit, refusing to be nailed down by responsibility. Another might be the determined rebel, out to change the social order. Yet another might be the apologist, trying to be a reliable sort and always sorry for failing.</p><p></p><p>Some Lawful types might be steady and stubborn, pursuing a goal to the end. Others might be scrupulously honest. Some might be "true believers" in the social order, rejecting the very notion that a commoner should ever aspire to a noble rank: "We were placed on the ladder of life by the gods. Who are we to question that?". Others might hold personal loyalty as paramount.</p><p></p><p>I had the opportunity to play an Imp in one game, who's alignment is defined as "always lawful evil". My approach to this (which I talked over with the DM in advance) was that he couldn't lie. He didn't have to tell the truth, mind you, but whatever he said had to be technically accurate. The rationale was that Devils deal in souls, and that means contracts. You lie in a contract, and the contract is void. As an example, one PC asked mine if he could trust me. I pretended to be insulted as I answered, "You know I'd never betray a friend!". What I neglected to mention was that his character was not a friend.</p><p></p><p>So while what was suggested in the OP sounded like a micro-version of Domain abilities for clerics, I can see what the author is getting at. In effect, I do something similar.</p><p></p><p>The hard part is that many players aren't that good at playing anything other than themselves. No matter what alignment is written on the sheet, they're always driven by the same rationale, the same goals and the same approach to achieving those goals. </p><p></p><p>Ultimately, the players who could benefit most from such guideposts are the ones least capable of doing so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6049426, member: 6669384"] As a player, I tend to use alignment as a tool in defining and developing a character personality. One Chaotic type might be the determined free spirit, refusing to be nailed down by responsibility. Another might be the determined rebel, out to change the social order. Yet another might be the apologist, trying to be a reliable sort and always sorry for failing. Some Lawful types might be steady and stubborn, pursuing a goal to the end. Others might be scrupulously honest. Some might be "true believers" in the social order, rejecting the very notion that a commoner should ever aspire to a noble rank: "We were placed on the ladder of life by the gods. Who are we to question that?". Others might hold personal loyalty as paramount. I had the opportunity to play an Imp in one game, who's alignment is defined as "always lawful evil". My approach to this (which I talked over with the DM in advance) was that he couldn't lie. He didn't have to tell the truth, mind you, but whatever he said had to be technically accurate. The rationale was that Devils deal in souls, and that means contracts. You lie in a contract, and the contract is void. As an example, one PC asked mine if he could trust me. I pretended to be insulted as I answered, "You know I'd never betray a friend!". What I neglected to mention was that his character was not a friend. So while what was suggested in the OP sounded like a micro-version of Domain abilities for clerics, I can see what the author is getting at. In effect, I do something similar. The hard part is that many players aren't that good at playing anything other than themselves. No matter what alignment is written on the sheet, they're always driven by the same rationale, the same goals and the same approach to achieving those goals. Ultimately, the players who could benefit most from such guideposts are the ones least capable of doing so. [/QUOTE]
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