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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dmhelp" data-source="post: 8238389" data-attributes="member: 7025338">Ok, I enjoy both 1e and 5e.  But we never played with weapon speed factors and didn't play with proficiencies.  I played 1e a couple of years ago and I thought it was annoying spending 10 rounds of whiffing against the boss in platemail (no fighter /xx strength weapon spec in the party and the players blew their spells too early).  I also didn't like it that at high level when only a fighter could hit in combat (you might as well not exist against a hasted weapon speced fighter with a girdle of giant strength).So the reason I want to modify 5e is because I enjoy the proficiency/bounded accuracy system.But, especially after TCE, I don't like 5e optimization.  It reminds me of 3e, everyone ending up with the same stats.  And it reminds me of "the complete" books from 2e.  I have a lot more nostalgia for AD&D than 2e.So after reading all of this I'm thinking:1. Roll 4d6s (reroll until >= 75 total) and apply standard racial modifiers, max 18 abilities (instead of 20)2. No Artificers/Sorcerers/Warlocks (Wizards may also pick from Sorcerer or Warlock subclasses); no feats; no standard multiclassing3. The first 4 ASIs gained instead give a new saving throw proficiency (with ASIs after this being ignored): Fighters & Rogues will have all saves at level 12, Monks at level 14, a Fighter/Rogue at level 10, and other classes at level 164. AD&D ("gestalt") multiclassing allowed (non-Human PHB races only) with two classes from two separate groups: Barbarian/Fighter/Ranger, Cleric/Druid, Rogue, & Wizard (e.g. Fighter/Wizard is ok, but Barbarian/Fighter is not; Bards/Monks/Paladins may not multiclass)5. After level 10 only gain 1 hp/level with no con mod, or 3 hp/level if Barbarian/Fighter/Monk/Paladin/Ranger/RogueI was torn on including the Fighter/Magic-User/Thief & Fighter/Magic-User/Cleric.  But I think game balance wise it may be better not too with how class features are in 5e.  I think limiting multiclassing to PHB races and subclasses cuts down on the shenanigans.A consequence of #5 will be it would be really easy for a high level Assassin to one shot people (especially if they were a demi-human Fighter/Assassin).  So I'm not sure if game balance wise it might work out better just using standard 5e hp.</blockquote>

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