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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8238956" data-attributes="member: 22779">Again, I totally disagree.&nbsp; You were expected to one on one these baddies.&nbsp; 20 kobolds?&nbsp; Your second level party blasted through them like tissue paper.&nbsp; Note, you had twice the number of expected PC's that you have in a 3e onwards party - 6-8 vs 4-5, and, while you didn't get a lot of spells, those spells became &quot;I win&quot; buttons.&nbsp; An 88 HP dragon was the LARGEST evil dragon there was.&nbsp; That was the 1e equivalent of Smaug.&nbsp; Most dragons were running in the 30-40 hp range, had a chance of being caught sleeping and could generally be dropped in a single round if the party was lucky.&nbsp; Heck, DL1, the first Dragonlance module, pits the 5th level party against an ancient huge black dragon and you're expected to win.&nbsp; And, having run the module a couple of times, yeah, the party generally did.I love how people talk about how lethal the game was by pointing to the rarest, least encountered creatures in the game and then claim that others aren't &quot;familiar&quot; with 1e.&nbsp; Look at modules like the A series, or the G series.&nbsp; There were no &quot;hit and run&quot; nibbling going on there.&nbsp; Those were tournament modules.&nbsp; You were expected to do that in a single go, possibly risking a rest or two within the dungeon.&nbsp; Heck, the G series starts out with the players not even being allowed to return to town.Why would you ever avoid combat?&nbsp; Most of the time you could blast your way through the baddies in a couple of rounds, not taking any damage at all.&nbsp; And, since you got xp for gold, sure the kill xp wasn't worth much, but, they were all carrying treasure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8238956, member: 22779"] Again, I totally disagree. You were expected to one on one these baddies. 20 kobolds? Your second level party blasted through them like tissue paper. Note, you had twice the number of expected PC's that you have in a 3e onwards party - 6-8 vs 4-5, and, while you didn't get a lot of spells, those spells became "I win" buttons. An 88 HP dragon was the LARGEST evil dragon there was. That was the 1e equivalent of Smaug. Most dragons were running in the 30-40 hp range, had a chance of being caught sleeping and could generally be dropped in a single round if the party was lucky. Heck, DL1, the first Dragonlance module, pits the 5th level party against an ancient huge black dragon and you're expected to win. And, having run the module a couple of times, yeah, the party generally did. I love how people talk about how lethal the game was by pointing to the rarest, least encountered creatures in the game and then claim that others aren't "familiar" with 1e. Look at modules like the A series, or the G series. There were no "hit and run" nibbling going on there. Those were tournament modules. You were expected to do that in a single go, possibly risking a rest or two within the dungeon. Heck, the G series starts out with the players not even being allowed to return to town. Why would you ever avoid combat? Most of the time you could blast your way through the baddies in a couple of rounds, not taking any damage at all. And, since you got xp for gold, sure the kill xp wasn't worth much, but, they were all carrying treasure. [/QUOTE]

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