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Message: <blockquote data-quote="House_Of_Dexter" data-source="post: 8241617" data-attributes="member: 78005">I know a lot of us Grognards would like to go back to the good old days of D&D.  I think part of it we look back with rose-colored glasses.   I'm not sure I would, I grew up playing White Box D&D.  I went to Gen Con 12 and bought the DM's Guide.  Matter of fact I bought like 10 of them for myself and my friends as none of them went to GenCon.  I ate up anything D&D back then.  There was the occasional module from TSR or Judges Guild and the Dragon Magazine and a little bit later White Dwarf.Part of what I like about 5E vs AD&D.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">That we no longer have THAC0.  THAC0 was because D&D began from Chainmail.  Chainmail was a miniature-based melee combat game at 1 to 1 figure.  They loved tables and were used to cross-reference to hit something.  (Note original D&D started at AC9 and was changed to 10 in AD&D).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Melee class is worthwhile.  The problem with high AC, is it makes melee classes less useful.  If you are going to have melee's whiff, then you make magic-users more powerful. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A Good Synergy between classes.  Every class feels like it is useful.  My only fault with the classes is a fighter and rangers.  Not much to do than swing that old melee weapon.  AD&D also had this problem.  4th edition went too far in making melee feel like mages.  The only way to really make rangers useful is to make the environment part of the game.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Milestone leveling.  You don't have to kill everything to level up.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I like that skills are linked to abilities.  We just need to train our players in how to roleplay and not game it.</li> </ul>Things I like that AD&D got right and are missing or drastically changed in 5E.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Its roots were Original D&D(aka White Box D&D).  It really didn't stray far from it.  It was simple and pretty much in the DM's hands.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Death was always close by.  Though probably a bit too close, which caused lots of fudging of dice rolls or you would be starting your campaign all over.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alignment was tracked and was used to reign in characters.  I grew up reading Michael Moorcock and the whole law versus chaos.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Level Drain, it was scary.  Probably a bit too scary.  I may homebrew it as levels of exhaustion.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Training to level up.  It was expensive and was a sink that pulled gold and magic items out of the campaign.</li> </ul></blockquote>

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