[Gleemax]Another thing not to like.

[tomBitonti]

Posting of owned material

well, any content that you owned in the first place, anyway

What rights would be given up if you posted material that you had assigned to another owner?

To answer my own question, I suppose that for any posting you would be required to grant certain rights to GleeMax, and the content would be removed if this were not the case.

 

[Ry]

Everyone keeps talking about feats...but do people realize this includes any homebrew world you might post or ideas that are a part of it that you post. Any new game concept (miniature, card based, or something entirely new). Even somethig like Rycanda's E6 could be published and sold by WotC if posted on their site. This just makes me extremely uneasy. It's a site that's suppose to go beyond WotC's games...yet gives them the right to use any material you post in any way they see fit.

While I'd love to see WotC do something with E6, I'd be upset about them doing it without at least crediting me as the source. That's why I put it out as OGC - I'm happy seeing it picked up, but not without at least acknowledging that I'm the one who came up with it.

(Kunimatyu put in a submission for the new dragon and maybe he'll get the chance. If that means letting them use it without tacking an OGL on the end I know that's within my rights to grant and I'd be happy to ... if I were credited. E6 sounds easy in retrospect but it was actually really hard to come up with.)

 

[tomBitonti]

Would posting automatically be considered a commercial infringement?

On a second matter, would posting material (not counting any subsequent use by GleeMax, or WOTC) be itself considered to be commecially infringing?

For example, excerpts of copyrighted material may be posted for review purposes (with limitations). My understanding is that this is considered fair use, non-infringing, and not removing of any of the original copyright protections. Would the guidelines, but assigning an unrestricted use to GleeMax, automatically make a posting, even for review purposes, infringing?

 

[Imaro]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't everything posted on Enworld the property of Enworld?

How is that neutral?

I just logged out real quick and looked over the user terms for the forum...there was nothing even close to this statement in them. Do you have a link or excerpt of this...if it is an enworld rule.

 

[der_kluge]

Enworld is just a message board - it's not any kind of legal entity that can possess anyone's right to anything. It's _just_ a message board. So, post away. It's your stuff.

Of course, that doesn't mean that someone can't come along, see your work, and replicate it for their own. Being as how ENWorld is a public forum, after all. Once posted, it essentially becomes public domain, but then IANAL.


But I agree - that Gleemax policy is BS. I'll certainly never post anything there.

 

[Hussar]

But, EnWorld is not a public forum, it's a privately owned website. The fact that they have the right to delete anything they want to pretty much negates any ownership you might claim over anything posted.

 

[Imaro]

But, EnWorld is not a public forum, it's a privately owned website. The fact that they have the right to delete anything they want to pretty much negates any ownership you might claim over anything posted.

I don't think that is the same thing. As owners of this particular medium for expression, they may be able to decide your "property" cannot be presented through this medium, but...that's a far cry from being able to use anything you post in any way they choose.

 

[Glyfair]

I don't think that is the same thing. As owners of this particular medium for expression, they may be able to decide your "property" cannot be presented through this medium, but...that's a far cry from being able to use anything you post in any way they choose.

A big issue of concern is moving things around. If ENWorld has to change servers, and maybe even providers, does moving the data over count as "republishing"? Can you sue them for unauthorized republication of your "work"? That's one of the concerns that leads to policies similar to this.

 

[Kunimatyu]

(Kunimatyu put in a submission for the new dragon and maybe he'll get the chance. If that means letting them use it without tacking an OGL on the end I know that's within my rights to grant and I'd be happy to ... if I were credited. E6 sounds easy in retrospect but it was actually really hard to come up with.)

If I hear from WotC on that proposal and it's remotely within my power to do so, you'll be credited, I assure you.

 

[frankthedm]

But, EnWorld is not a public forum, it's a privately owned website. The fact that they have the right to delete anything they want to pretty much negates any ownership you might claim over anything posted.

Big diff. Your IP are your furnishings in EnWorld Apartments. Should Enworld have to throw you out and place your things on the street, they vanish into nothingness rather than sit there.

Gleemax instead can choose to keep it and possibly whore it out if profitable.