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<blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 4031623" data-attributes="member: 1"><p>KM, as many people have pointed out in this thread already, they don't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's correct; they have a non-exclusive license to use them. This, however, doesn't prevent your own use or affect your ownership of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope; you cannot give away property you don't own. If you don't own the rights to the image in question, there's no possible legal situation whereby you can give someone else rights to it. They're not yours to give away.</p><p></p><p>I can't post the text of a <em>Harry Potter </em> book there and wrest away control of the <em>Harry Potter </em> universe from its publisher (or Rowling, whatever the IP ownership situation is there). If the TOU did grant me that magic power, I'd be able to destroy a lot of very big companies by giving all their property to WotC. Simple fact is, I can't do that, and there's no combination of words WotC can write which will give me that power. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, they don't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And again, you do.</p><p></p><p>KM, it's clear you have strong feelings on the subject, but you're not actually <em>reading</em> the TOU; you're basing your opinion on what you think the TOU <em>probably </em> say. The key points are the words "grant" and "non-exclusive license". The former requires you to have the legal power to make that grant (so it doesn't affect other peoples' art you found and posted, as you don't have the power to grant rights over it), and the latter does not touch ownership of the property.</p><p></p><p>Of course, you're perfectly happy to find that situation unacceptable; but you should make your judgements based on what the TOU <em>actually</em> say. It's a pretty clear, non-vague document.</p><p></p><p>My opinion? I think it's OK. After all, in order to post your character, or your new monster, or your new feat, you're using <em>their </em> material. It seems only fair to me for it to be a two-way street: "you can use our stuff, but we can use yours, too".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Morrus, post: 4031623, member: 1"] KM, as many people have pointed out in this thread already, they don't. That's correct; they have a non-exclusive license to use them. This, however, doesn't prevent your own use or affect your ownership of them. Nope; you cannot give away property you don't own. If you don't own the rights to the image in question, there's no possible legal situation whereby you can give someone else rights to it. They're not yours to give away. I can't post the text of a [I]Harry Potter [/I] book there and wrest away control of the [I]Harry Potter [/I] universe from its publisher (or Rowling, whatever the IP ownership situation is there). If the TOU did grant me that magic power, I'd be able to destroy a lot of very big companies by giving all their property to WotC. Simple fact is, I can't do that, and there's no combination of words WotC can write which will give me that power. :) Again, they don't. And again, you do. KM, it's clear you have strong feelings on the subject, but you're not actually [I]reading[/I] the TOU; you're basing your opinion on what you think the TOU [I]probably [/I] say. The key points are the words "grant" and "non-exclusive license". The former requires you to have the legal power to make that grant (so it doesn't affect other peoples' art you found and posted, as you don't have the power to grant rights over it), and the latter does not touch ownership of the property. Of course, you're perfectly happy to find that situation unacceptable; but you should make your judgements based on what the TOU [I]actually[/I] say. It's a pretty clear, non-vague document. My opinion? I think it's OK. After all, in order to post your character, or your new monster, or your new feat, you're using [I]their [/I] material. It seems only fair to me for it to be a two-way street: "you can use our stuff, but we can use yours, too". [/QUOTE]
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