Glove of Dex, but what bonus?

[anonynos]

Okay, Gloves of Dex list a req of Caster Level 8... Is that for /any/ level of bonus? That doesn't seem to fit with the other bonus items, which in general seem to be based on CL/(some number). Can a caster level 8 make +2, +4 and +6 items? Or shuld it be based on thier caster level divided by soemthing? Opinions?

 

[Magic Rub]

From the DMG

"Caster Level"

The power of the item (just as a spell’s caster level measures its power). The caster level determines the item’s saving throw bonus, as well as range or other level-dependent aspects of the powers of the item (if variable). It also determines the level that must be contended with should the item come under the effect of a dispel magic spell or similar situation.
For potions, scrolls, and wands, the creator can set the caster level of the item at any number high enough to cast the stored spell and not higher than her own caster level. For other magic items, the caster level is determined by the item itself. In this case, the creator’s caster level must be as high as the item’s caster level (and prerequisites may effectively put a higher minimum on the creator’s level).

Edit: added the following

From the DMG

"Prerequisites"

The requirements that must be met in order for a character to create the item.

It is possible for more than one character to cooperate in the creation of an item, with each participant providing one or more of
the prerequisites. In some cases, cooperation may even be necessary, such as if one character knows some of the spells
necessary to create an item and another character knows the rest.

If two or more characters cooperate to create an item, they must agree among themselves who will be considered the creator for the purpose of determinations where the creator’s level must be known.

When two spells at the end of a list are separated by “or,” one of those spells is required in addition to every other spell mentioned prior to the last two.

 

[Krash]

Jesus, why post such a ing retarded answer to such a simple question?

The answer is this: You can make the item with any listed bonus, ie +6 gauntlets of dex (+6 is the max for non epic I believe). Some DM's I know of house rule this to be +1 per 3 caster levels though, so you can make +2 Gloves of Dex at lvl 8, or +5 Gloves of Dex at lvl 15.

 

[Dinkeldog]

As a lesson for the class, let's look at Krash's post.

Now, the second paragraph is great, it answers the question. The first paragraph simply attacks the previous poster for very little reason. If you don't agree, you could say, "But that doesn't answer the question." Much easier for all involved and doesn't set you up to get put on people's ignore lists.

Overall, more of the second paragraph, less of the first.

 

[Magic Rub]

Thanks Dinkeldog


... & Krash, Jesus didn't post the "retarded answer". I did, me MAGIC RUB... not Jesus *MA-JICK R R RRRUB*

I was simply posting the rules text quotes in case Anonynos hadn't read them. Which it seemed he hadn't (IMO). Not to play with him. Next time I'll be blunt.

 

[anonynos]

First off, Krash... thank you.

Secondly, Magic Rub. Yes, I read the rules. And I even understand all the words. Yay, I'm smart. (Sarcasm, yum. But only because I'm slightly offended at the the implied shot in your post...) I'm not sure where in my post it seems like I havn't comprehended the terms you decided to post about, I was asking about intent...

I ask this because the rules clash with many of the other item creation rules where it's all caster Level divided by a number (armor and weapons are 3 IIRC). Having a cart blanch "Level 8 for any level you want to make" doesn't make sense to me, so I wanted to know if that was supposed to be the case.

 

[Krash]

okay okay, I apologize for the attack...I just get tired of people seemingly trying to be too clever and not really appearing to help out on a simple question.

That is all.

 

[silcrist]

I've been looking over these items, too, and haven't been able to find a consistent answer...

Gloves of Dex, Headband of Intellect, Amulet of Health, Cloak of Cha, and Periapt of Wis all can be made +2, +4, or +6 and require caster level 8.
A Belt of Giant Strength provides +4 or 6, requiring caster level 10.
Magical armor and weapons require caster level of 3 times the enhancement bonus.
Bracers of Armor require a class level of 2 times the provided bonus.

I'd agree with Krash, above. Either stick with the DMG as printed (caster level 8 can make any of the three), or create a house rule of caster level / 3. (I'd think 3 was more appropriate than 2 since bracers of armor only affect AC while the ability-modifying items have wider-ranging effects.)

 

[Kraedin]

According to Monte Cook, Sean K. Reynolds et al., you only need to be 3rd level to make gloves of dexterity.

 

[anonynos]

Interesting... is that on thier boards or something?