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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9515701" data-attributes="member: 7006">This kind of thing absolutely can work if you have players who are fine with not being concerned about &quot;winning&quot;.A player in this sort of game would have to be willing to throw up their own personal roadblocks to create their own drama, rather than the typical drama of the DM throwing roadblocks up in front for the player to try and get around.&nbsp; &quot;Why wouldn't the player just ask 'Can I jump this 100 foot crevasse'?&quot; as though this is that person's way of breaking the idea of this game.&nbsp; The answer of course is a player who is wanting to play in this sort of game wouldn't actually ask that question in the first place.&nbsp; They know their PC can't jump a 100 foot crevasse, so they wouldn't be so crass as to actually ask the question, thinking that the DM HAS to say Yes to it.&quot;Can I get past this puzzle?&quot;A player who was willingly playing in this type of game wouldn't ask that question.&nbsp; Because it defeats the purpose of playing this sort of game.&nbsp; The player who agreed to play in this style of game would actually do everything they would normally to solve this puzzle because handwaving their way past it defeats the purpose of playing in the first place.We as players are all more than capable of creating our own dramatic situations if we want to... none of us HAVE to rely on dice to do it.&nbsp; Now of course those players who prefer the dice game moreso than the improvisation of creative expression would not want to play in this type of game... and that's fine.&nbsp; But at the end of the day I think this type of game would basically be more of your typical indy improv game RPG because it's no longer about the dice or cards or mechanics, it's about the players creating the drama themselves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9515701, member: 7006"] This kind of thing absolutely can work if you have players who are fine with not being concerned about "winning". A player in this sort of game would have to be willing to throw up their own personal roadblocks to create their own drama, rather than the typical drama of the DM throwing roadblocks up in front for the player to try and get around. "Why wouldn't the player just ask 'Can I jump this 100 foot crevasse'?" as though this is that person's way of breaking the idea of this game. The answer of course is a player who is wanting to play in this sort of game wouldn't [I]actually ask[/I] that question in the first place. They know their PC can't jump a 100 foot crevasse, so they wouldn't be so crass as to actually ask the question, thinking that the DM HAS to say Yes to it. "Can I get past this puzzle?" A player who was willingly playing in this type of game wouldn't ask that question. Because it defeats the purpose of playing this sort of game. The player who agreed to play in this style of game would actually do everything they would normally to solve this puzzle because handwaving their way past it defeats the purpose of playing in the first place. We as players are all more than capable of creating our own dramatic situations if we want to... none of us HAVE to rely on dice to do it. Now of course those players who prefer the dice game moreso than the improvisation of creative expression would not want to play in this type of game... and that's fine. But at the end of the day I think this type of game would basically be more of your typical indy improv game RPG because it's no longer about the dice or cards or mechanics, it's about the players creating the drama themselves. [/QUOTE]

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