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jgbrowning said:
Perhaps you're talking about the filled out example worksheets that we're planning to do as a web enhancement?

Nope. The worksheets as they appear in the book, each a separate file for people to download and print out.

That was our first idea, but after we did it our pages looked really dense. The space between the chapters opened up the page a little and (for me at least) made it easier to find what i was looking for.

I suspect increasing the number of columns would help there. Ten point Times or Times New Roman in three columns for body text would be an much easier read. The same font at larger sizes for section, sub-section, and sub-sub-section headings, and a sans-serif font for Chapter headings and the title page. For the section etc headings use the "condense" style, and for the chapter headings use the "extend" style. Consult your word processor for details.

We used pagemaker 7.0 for the layout and distilled via that software.

Haven't used Pagemaker myself, so I have no idea how it deals with embedded fonts. I believe Acrobat and Distiller will embed fonts in a document, and I know that JawsPDF Creator (Mac) does as well, but not whether any third party Windows PDF distiller does. In any case, be sure to get a PDF distiller who can embed fonts in a document, it'll be a big help.

I noticed that a lot of your comments were about fonts and spacing issues. Are these just your preferences or are you having difficulty reading/printing the file? I don't have access to a Mac so i don't have a way to test our files on a Mac before we put them up. Could that be part of the problem or is it unrelated?

Printing, no. Reading. It isn't a comfortable read. The font and the formatting make reading it uncomfortable, and that means people won't be willing to read it all the way through and then make use of it. Which is what you want. It can also degrade their opinion of your products, and so cut into future sales.

I wouldn't mind seeing your version of one of our tables. If it will help them be better than they already are, i'd be all for changing them.

Send a table as an attachment in an email. I'll format it and distill it with a "printer driver" I have.

Great! We're finishing the print layout and the revised PDF layout right now. Thanks for the suggestions, I'm always looking for imput on how to put out better stuff.

joe b.

Glad I could help. Keep in mind that my advice and suggestions are all aimed at helping you produce a more professional product. What you have now is a high quality amateur production. Some will buy it, but more would buy it if it looked professional. Even a PDF.

With that in mind:

Paper is cheap, it's ink that's expensive. Put the title page on page three, start the ToC on page five, and each chapter on an odd numbered page. It's the professional thing to do. Include the chapter number with the header, and put the page number on the bottom outside corner.

My personal preference is to have a one inch inner margin and half inch outer margins. Most printers say they can't handle it, but tweaking the printing preferences (maximum printing area) takes care of that, and with no real impact on printing quality. This will give people more space to print on and actually cut down on the number of pages.

Overall it's a good first effort. The writing is clean, the subject is interesting and your handling of it is good. I recommend it. But, it would do so much better with a few changes.

BTW, Word Perfect Suite from Corel does more than Word for Windows and costs about the same. It's also easier to work with and even gives more professional results. You can use it for writing and basic formatting, then do the hardcore formatting with Pagemaker. For something much cheaper than Word that still has many of the features you'd expect in a word processor, get AppleWorks for Windows. It's a suite of applications, including along with the word processor draw, paint, data base, spreadsheet and presentation software which, while it can't do everything Office can, is cheaper than Word alone and has more features.

Thanks for listening, and remember I'm only doing this in the hopes it results in a better product.
 

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mythusmage said:
BTW, Word Perfect Suite from Corel does more than Word for Windows and costs about the same. It's also easier to work with and even gives more professional results.
Please try not to start flamewars over whose word processor is better. I am sure there is nothing that word does that word perfect cannot do and vice versa. The difference is your experience with either product and knowing all the ins and outs of it. I use Word to create my PDFs and they contain embedded graphics and beautiful tables. I would not recommend it for just anybody though because I know I can be that much horsepower out of it because I've used it for over 15 years. (Started with Word for DOS 3.0 in 1986.) I'm not a fan of Microsoft but I do love their word processor.
 

I'm having trouble with RPGNow at the moment (hashing it out with their support via email), but once it's worked out I'll get a copy. If I'm lucky, I'll get it by the 4th!
 



Thanks for getting the book. I hope you guys like the book!

The revised edition is coming out next week (date uncertain). It will include a print version and an on screen version. Everyone who alreaady bought the original PDF will get a copy of the revised version for free (thanks to the ingenuity of James at RPGnow.com)

As for having the book in print, yes, we are going to make a print run (144 pg, perfect bound, B&W interior, color cover). But we don't have distributors yet and those are the people who are responsible for getting the books to your FLGS. If we do not have a distributor by the time the books are printed, we most will most likely sell them directly from our web site www.exp.citymax.com. More details as they arrive.....

All things considered we are very pleased with the book and its performance (4 5-star comments at RGPnow and 4/5 Enworld review). It has only been out two weeks, and it's climbed the charts at RPGnow.com.

I'm closing this thread, but if you wish to continue this conversation, head over to this link

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43099

where more MMS:WE conversing is taking place.

Happy gaming,
suzi
 
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