Golems - magic immunity to divination spells?

valen1949

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With regards to magical immunity and golems, are golems immune to detect magic or know protections, know vulnerabilities or even scrying
 

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Hypersmurf said:
I'm pretty sure they're immune to Detect Thoughts and Detect Undead, if that helps...

-Hyp.
:D

I´m no rule expert.
I would also remcomend they are because of ther magic immunity immune to any diviniation spell which allows the appliance of SR.
Scrying does not allow applying SR.

Just my 2 cents
yennico
 
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Yes Hyper

They are immune to detect thoughts since they are constructs and have no thoughts and are immune to detect undead as they are not undead, but still are the immune to detect magic... they are most definetly magical...

But can a do they not radiate a detectable magical aura and would know protections spell and know immunties spell be able to detect that a create is immune to active magics....

regards

v
 


valen1949 said:
But can a do they not radiate a detectable magical aura...

Constructs do not have a magical aura. The magic used to create them is over once they've been activated. This is addressed in the FAQ.
 

I'd treat their immunity as having SR of a bazillion against those things they're immune to. If a spell doesn't allow SR though, the golem can still be affected/sensed by it.
 

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The guy who made Know protections and Know vulnerabilities -spells in Magic of Faerun, had a bit of a brainfart.

They are divination spells that give out all protections, or protections and vulnerabilities of monsters (1st and 4th lvl spell, respectively).
They have will save and SR=yes.

Now, the DESCRIPTION of the spell has a demon and IRON GOLEM as the examples.

Now, IMC, I ruled that the spells don't get SR at all. This way, according to sage ruling, they would work on golems. (By the theory that golem immunity is a dang high SR).

Why I ruled this way? Well, I thought that if the maker of the spell has really thought that the spell should give out also golem information by even giving an example, then he has really ment that it should give out golem info. That means that it must be possible to cast it on golems and the SR-part is some kind of mistake.

Some people would rule otherwise, but for me, the description of the spell, if it contradicts the stats of the spell, has greater value. This is because the maker of the spell must have thought about the description, but mistakes happen in the stat block quite often (like Dimensional Lock-spell level...).
 

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