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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Unwise" data-source="post: 6557847" data-attributes="member: 98008">Both suggestions look reasonable to me. We just have to careful about what the yardstick for effectiveness is. The ability is a little too effective at low level, I suspect it will be OK during mid levels.Assuming even one short rest a day.At level one a fighter with 14 con has 12HP, this ability gives an extra 16 (130% of base HP)At level five a fighter with 14 con has 44HP, this ability gives an extra 16. (bit more than a third)At level ten a fighter with 14 con has 84HP, this ability gives an extra 16. (bit less than 20% more)For a mage the numbers would look a lot better as their comparative HP totals are so low and con is often their second stat.To me it looks overpowered at low level (not that I care) very good at mid level and sliding towards just OK at level 10. To me it is a bridge I will cross when I come to it. I don't plan on running games past level 10 for a long time yet. I think it would be incorrect to try and keep it being as good at high level as it is initially. I think it is too good initially.</blockquote>