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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7881566" data-attributes="member: 6779196">The... lack of anything interesting? Being big and strong is not very interesting on its own.Don’t get me wrong, I really like Goliaths, but I also think there’s a lot more to them than just being “big strong guys” that is often overlooked. It seems like you’re saying you like them because there’s not much more to them than that. Please do correct me if I’m misunderstanding you.That’s still pretty big, and definitely strong. They have built-in lore and cultural details (which, yes, have their roots in some ugly stereotypes, but it can be fun to recontextualize that) in addition to being big and strong, which is what makes them more interesting than goliaths for many players and DMS. They’re not just defined by physical attributes (which, again, I don’t think Goliaths are either, but that’s the perception).Well, first of all, any anthropomorphic animal race has the potential to be interesting because animals are fascinating and complex creatures with myriad behavioral and social quirks that can be fun to translate into a more  humanlike context. But also Minotaurs tie into Greek myth (or at least pop culture’s perception of it), so again, they have a lot more to them than size and strength.Yeah, Bugbears are kinda one-note. I find them less interesting than Goliaths, myself.Eh, most DMs who are going to have townsfolk react poorly to orcs and bugbears are not going to have them react much better to Goliaths, so I don’t think that’s as much of a selling point as you make it out to be here.Yeah, I can definitely see the appeal of getting to play a big strong guy without a lot of extra baggage. But it also seems painfully obvious to me why a race that is (perceived to be) defined almost exclusively by their size and strength unappealing. For many people, the baggage is the fun part.I get you, man. I think they’re cool too. I’m just saying, the reason you think they’re cool is exactly the reason Jim David thinks they’re kinda boring.</blockquote>

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