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<blockquote data-quote="SuperSam888" data-source="post: 7881878" data-attributes="member: 6792564"><p>Goliath seem to lack a cultural niche to me. Do they have their own empires? Do they worship their own gods, or weave strange tribal magicks? I actually found this episode very inspiring and continued to come up with ideas well after it is over.</p><p></p><p>The Goliaths could be a cultural group of humans. Maybe they were former slaves or maybe they were once the elite of a tyrannical empire but after being (freed for the former, overthrown for the latter), they made a home for themselves in the mountains. A combination of their people's past and the harsh terrain has forced them to adapt, both physically or culturally, to be tough as stone.</p><p></p><p>Maybe they were hewn from the same stone as Dwarves, by giant gods. Dwarves were made to be workers while Goliaths were made to be foot soldiers all in service to the Giant Empire. While the dwarves rebelled and became Giantslayers, the Goliath developed a reverence for the True Giants.</p><p></p><p>Maybe Goliaths are the result of mixing bloodlines between humans and ogres, and maybe even a bit of dwarf too.</p><p></p><p>Maybe they wield the magic of winter. Not ice magic, but rather they weave supernatural, primal energies of winter (read about the ogres and the everwinter from Warhammer). Maybe they are diviners who can see glimpses of the future by spilling blood on the stone shrines of their mountain homes and see omens in the patterns of the birds that fly amongst the peaks. Maybe a Goliath magic user must go through a trial by sitting alone on a mountain peak until the spirit of the mountain speaks to them.</p><p></p><p>Are they nomads traveling from peak to peak, or do they live in ancestral homes carved into the faces cliffs?</p><p></p><p>How well do they get along with Dwarves? Humans? Giants? Orcs?</p><p></p><p>The point is Goliaths as-is are a bit tall, have some giant blood, are pretty tough, and are pretty strong, but WotC doesnt give them enough beyond that. There is so much that can be done with them. So much flavor you can give them that exists beyond mechanics and min-maxing. Goliaths as they are, seem a bit bland. They can be fun to play, but they need a better niche.</p><p></p><p>Also, I saw minotaurs being mentioned as just bull people. But they have a rich history of being the devoted of baphomet, while some have strived to prove that not all minotaurs are demonic monsters. They may look like a bull but they are not mindless beasts. Also, what makes bull people, bull people? Are they just humans with Bull heads, bulls on two legs, or something much more complex. They could have some of the behaviour patterns of bulls/bovines, yet have the culture oh humans. </p><p></p><p>I just feel like any race can be made to be interesting and unique yet not every race is, at least in official lore.</p><p></p><p>The one complaint I had with the video was the intro wasn't as good as some of their others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuperSam888, post: 7881878, member: 6792564"] Goliath seem to lack a cultural niche to me. Do they have their own empires? Do they worship their own gods, or weave strange tribal magicks? I actually found this episode very inspiring and continued to come up with ideas well after it is over. The Goliaths could be a cultural group of humans. Maybe they were former slaves or maybe they were once the elite of a tyrannical empire but after being (freed for the former, overthrown for the latter), they made a home for themselves in the mountains. A combination of their people's past and the harsh terrain has forced them to adapt, both physically or culturally, to be tough as stone. Maybe they were hewn from the same stone as Dwarves, by giant gods. Dwarves were made to be workers while Goliaths were made to be foot soldiers all in service to the Giant Empire. While the dwarves rebelled and became Giantslayers, the Goliath developed a reverence for the True Giants. Maybe Goliaths are the result of mixing bloodlines between humans and ogres, and maybe even a bit of dwarf too. Maybe they wield the magic of winter. Not ice magic, but rather they weave supernatural, primal energies of winter (read about the ogres and the everwinter from Warhammer). Maybe they are diviners who can see glimpses of the future by spilling blood on the stone shrines of their mountain homes and see omens in the patterns of the birds that fly amongst the peaks. Maybe a Goliath magic user must go through a trial by sitting alone on a mountain peak until the spirit of the mountain speaks to them. Are they nomads traveling from peak to peak, or do they live in ancestral homes carved into the faces cliffs? How well do they get along with Dwarves? Humans? Giants? Orcs? The point is Goliaths as-is are a bit tall, have some giant blood, are pretty tough, and are pretty strong, but WotC doesnt give them enough beyond that. There is so much that can be done with them. So much flavor you can give them that exists beyond mechanics and min-maxing. Goliaths as they are, seem a bit bland. They can be fun to play, but they need a better niche. Also, I saw minotaurs being mentioned as just bull people. But they have a rich history of being the devoted of baphomet, while some have strived to prove that not all minotaurs are demonic monsters. They may look like a bull but they are not mindless beasts. Also, what makes bull people, bull people? Are they just humans with Bull heads, bulls on two legs, or something much more complex. They could have some of the behaviour patterns of bulls/bovines, yet have the culture oh humans. I just feel like any race can be made to be interesting and unique yet not every race is, at least in official lore. The one complaint I had with the video was the intro wasn't as good as some of their others. [/QUOTE]
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