Good noble class?

[doghead]

Aristocrat.

What Thanee said.

If the setting has any sort of functioning social heirarchy, the loss of a few cruchy bits seems a small price to pay.

thotd

 

[Whimsical]

The Player's Guide to Arcanis has the Patrician class, which is the best noble class that I have seen. I don't have the book with me, but it has some very good class abilities which are useful and very appropriate.

If you don't have access to this book, persuade the DM to have you use the Aristrocrat NPC class with bonus feats every three levels or so. Just a different spin off of KaeYoss' idea.

Or you can shoot toward Epic Level Princess. I imagine an epic level princess, a beautiful sight to behold, walking through the battlefield. Everyone, whether ally or enemy is compelled to bow down when they see her. She commands the enemy troops to join her army and they enthusiastically comply. Suddenly several dozen arrows come toward her. "Stop!" she commands, and the arrows stop. "Avenge me!" and the arrows turn around and fling themselves back to the archers. An epic level princess is so commanding that she can command reality itself.

"...Now if you were to point your pistol at a king, the majesty of royalty you see, your hand would start to shake and all throughts of death and killing would be wiped from your mind as you would stand there in awe.....but a President? Why not shoot a President?" -- English Bob, Unforgiven

 

[Kae'Yoss]

An epic level princess is so commanding that she can command reality itself.

Unplayable class. As soon as she sees a tower she locks herself in in there, and she always faints at the sight of a dragon (no save).

 

[Nightfall]

While I can't speak from experience (I'm not an elitist person) the noble from DLCS or Aristocrat isn't a bad option.

Psion, you did a review of that book right? *just want to see what your opinion against it is...*

 

[wingsandsword]

personally I like the noble from the Dragonlance campaign setting

I'll second this. It's well written, balanced, not setting specific (despite coming from the Dragonlance setting book) and I know from my own games that it exports well to other settings. For those who like WotC/Official stuff, it is the official noble class as well.

Frankly I think Noble should be a normal core class, but since standard D&D is much more of a combat game than a roleplaying game, the classes that are oriented more towards plot and much less towards combat get left out. I could imagine the complainers who would gripe loudly and long about Noble being "underpowered" because it can't do piles of damage or cast big spells, because all they think about is how to kill whatever is in the next room of the dungeon. I would have liked to see it (or a revision) reprinted in the Complete series, but Noble doesn't easily fit into the Fighter/Rogue/Arcane/Divine set, which I think is another reason it's been traditionally ignored in D&D.

 

[Bront]

Aristocrat.

Not too bad, wonder if there is a way to tweek it a bit to make it a better PC class...
Maybe a few bonus feats or something. I can probably work on it with the DM and tweek that class (I like most of it, but not quite all of it).

Bard I thought of, but I don't want the spellcasting thing, and the entertainment/sining seems not quite right.

What's the Noble from the Dragonlance book like? (General discription, obviously)

I see the one posted by John Q Mahem, not too bad. Pretty close to what I'm looking for actualy.

 

[Bront]

I'll second this. It's well written, balanced, not setting specific (despite coming from the Dragonlance setting book) and I know from my own games that it exports well to other settings. For those who like WotC/Official stuff, it is the official noble class as well.

Frankly I think Noble should be a normal core class, but since standard D&D is much more of a combat game than a roleplaying game, the classes that are oriented more towards plot and much less towards combat get left out. I could imagine the complainers who would gripe loudly and long about Noble being "underpowered" because it can't do piles of damage or cast big spells, because all they think about is how to kill whatever is in the next room of the dungeon. I would have liked to see it (or a revision) reprinted in the Complete series, but Noble doesn't easily fit into the Fighter/Rogue/Arcane/Divine set, which I think is another reason it's been traditionally ignored in D&D.

I agree. I might simply try to draw up a new core Noble class based loosely on Rogue/Aristrocrat.

A good noble class should be broad though, as many nobles were often trained in war as well as piece, so a flexable class should allow for a militant and pacifist noble.

 

[Sejs]

I tend to use the Courtier from OA, myself.

Or multiclasses Courtier/Marshall, Courtier/Swashbuckler, Courtier/Bard or whatnot for the more 'active' type of nobles.

 

[Bront]

After looking around, I came up with my own Noble Class and posted it in the House Rules forum. If anyone has tips, please mention them.

I'd still like to find a good official noble though. Generaly a bit more acceptable.

 

[Testament]

Courtier from Oriental Adventures/L5R, or Patrician from Arcanis are the best ones I've seen. Patrician I think works better, since it has strong ties to the idea of your noble estate and home turf.