Good spells for a non lethal/semi pacifistic PrC

Kahuna Burger

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I'm working on a PrC which specializes in subdual damage with a sideline in non lethal punishments and avoiding fights in the first place. Looking at it as a good class for palidans or maybe rangers who want to go the bounty hunter route. I want to give it a minor spell progression ala the assassin, but aside from sanctuary, zone of truth and some cure spells, I'm drawing a bit of a blank... Sleep and hold type spells seem good at first blush, but I don't want him just setting enemies up for other people to coup de grace.

Any (core rule, ogl or easy new spell) suggestions?
 

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There are some good ones from AU. Mind Stab is a 1st level spell, it's something like d6+1/2 levels subdual with a ranged touch attack. Also Blinding Light. 2nd level, one target medium range, fort save or be blinded for 1 round/level. Umm, drain away speed reduces the target's speed by 30 ft., not sure of specifics. There's also things called spell templates, which are basically themed metamagic feats, and one of them transfers all hp damage in a spell you cast into subdual. Hope that helps.
 

There's also a great subdual damage spell in Spells & Spellcraft. It is Exhaust. An area effect spell that does 3d6 subdual. Will negates (?)
 

If you convert the Concussion powers from the Pisonic Handbook to spell the might work well. I suggest just substituting the appropriate damage cap for the level spell you want to make.

Concussion
Psychokinesis (Con)
Level: Psion 2
Display: Au
Manifestation Time: 1 action
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Target: One individual
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: Fortitude half
Power Resistance: Yes
Power Points: 3
The target is pummeled with for 3d6 points of damage. The manifester may choose to have the power deal an equal amount of subdual damage instead.
Concussion always affects a subject within range that the manifester can see, even if the subject is in melee or has partial cover or concealment. Inanimate objects are also damaged by the power.
 

Some of these look good, but since the class has a full fighter BAB, I'm wanting the spells to help a little with the non combat flavor... things he could use to avoid a fight in the first place, or negotiate a truce once he's whuped the enemy into taking him seriously.

I'll prolly post the first draft of the class this evening after work...

Kahuna burger
 

charm person, command, suggestion, illusions + bluff skill (illusions of powerful friends to push a negotiation), etc might do the trick if you are looking to avoid fights?
 

I think you are looking for Righteous Might or Wildshaping - both of which make you extremely likely to win grapples - which are in turn the best way to subdue people without anyone getting hurt or killed.

-Frank
 

FrankTrollman said:
I think you are looking for Righteous Might or Wildshaping - both of which make you extremely likely to win grapples - which are in turn the best way to subdue people without anyone getting hurt or killed.

-Frank

So you could also go for entangle, Evard's tentacles, net of shadows, etc.

PS
 

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