Goodman Games 3.5 Revival

[Mikaze]

Does Expeditious Retreat Press publish any work that is not by Monte Cook? If not, then that speaks very highly of the quality of their product, imho.

They've also published adventures by Doug "Doug Doug" Douglason.(NSFW)

However, I think you're right that with their d20 fire sale they had in December, many of their potential customers have likely already stocked up.

I know I certainly did. I went from owning 10 Goodman items to almost their entire inventory of d20 products in the course of one night. I'm probably not even ever going to run Broncosaurus Rex, but I couldn't stop myself.

I certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at new product though, from them or anyone else.

 

[DM_Jeff]

My source is not omniscient and can't speak for everyone's sales. They also have no information on non WotC 3e sales.

Yeah, see, the problem with sources you don't want to be crude and drop their names. But if you have their opinion or intel, you want to share it, too. That means you can take what I have to say with the same grain.

I happen to run into my old friend this weekend who runs both an online and mortar RPG/game distributorship. We chatted about the business, naturally. He noted that while his paper backstock of Goodman Games' 3.5 DCC's were still selling, the 4e sales of the same have gone to nil, having him stop ordering them completely.

-DM Jeff

 

[Crothian]

his paper backstock of Goodman Games' 3.5 DCC's were still selling

This surprises me. I would have guessed that the modules would have been sold out by now. I used them a lot on 3e and I think they are easy to use once I convert them to 4e (or even the older editions).

 

[Sunderstone]

Great point, Joe.

With Pathfinder coming out soon, Goodman will be positioned to offer support products right away if they want to.

However, I think you're right that with their d20 fire sale they had in December, many of their potential customers have likely already stocked up.

I stocked up on Goodman DCC's as well. Joe Goodman himself managed to find me a DCC #35 that was laying around the warehouse back then too (I was a happy camper indeed ). If Goodman starts making a new DCCs 3.5 or Pathfinder, ill be on board. Goodman and Paizo are my favorite publishers.

 

[El Mahdi]

WOO-HOO!

 

[Sunderstone]

but in general you can use the old versions with the new system without much trouble.

I find this to be true with the PFRPG rules as well. We've been using select rules in our 3.5 games with a "plug and play" attitude. So far everything works out fine with zero modifications.

As for monsters with new or refined abilities, Ill treat them like I do the PFRPG classes... guage the difference and pick one or the other to be "official" in my game (sorta treating them like variants).

 

[Mark]

I have heard otherwise.

A guy who gamed with me for a while led me to believe that the gamer community in Puerto Rico was not very large. As I recall, he divided his time throughout his adult gaming life between Puerto Rico, the Chicagoland area and his military duties which took him around to various bases in the US and overseas, so his comparisons seemed to suggest he knew what he was discussing. Does your annecdotal information have the same kind of breadth?

 

[ggroy]

Heck, considering that editing is going on now, I can't help but think we'll see Pathfinder logos and classics on 'em if that's permissible with the Pathfinder license.

What would be cool is if Goodman compiles and publishes as large hardcover books (ie. over 150-200 pages), some of the Dungeon Crawl Classics modules which naturally fit into an adventure path. The books can even be dual-stated for both 3.5 and Pathfinder.

The model I had mind was what Paizo did for the Shackled City adventure path, compiling 12 articles into one huge hardcover book.

 

[JoeGKushner]

What would be cool is if Goodman compiles and publishes as large hardcover books (ie. over 150-200 pages), some of the Dungeon Crawl Classics modules which naturally fit into an adventure path. The books can even be dual-stated for both 3.5 and Pathfinder.

The model I had mind was what Paizo did for the Shackled City adventure path, compiling 12 articles into one huge hardcover book.

Possible but it seemed they were going the 'reboxing' method of the physical copies they had.

With print cost being significant, I can't imagine these things coming back into print unless it via lulu or something similiar.

 

[ggroy]

Possible but it seemed they were going the 'reboxing' method of the physical copies they had.

With print cost being significant, I can't imagine these things coming back into print unless it via lulu or something similiar.

Reboxing would be viable if Goodman still has tons of printed copies left collecting dust in a warehouse. No idea if their warehouse is empty of 3.5E stuff or not.

I don't know if it would be viable to reprint individual modules again, unless there is great demand for them. At a few local FLGS in town they still have a few 3.5E Dungeon Crawl Classics left over from 2006 or 2007, which have been collecting dust for more than a year in the bargain bins.