Goodman Games Releasing 4e Adventures Prior to October 1st

[Shroomy]

At first blush, I figured I knew the trick...

Emphasis mine.

On further review of their site, though, they have an MSRP of > 0, which suggests either (wild speculation follows) a special arrangement with WotC or possibly that they'll be giving them out free at GenCon. (end wild speculation)

They have an MSRP of 10.99 on each of the new DCCs.

 

[delericho]

So the death of open gaming (with respect to D&D) throws up a whole raft of associated problems (or did this exist under OGL as well; strange that I never noticed it but then I guess I wasn't looking)?

Pretty much exactly the same arguments happened eight years ago, with lengthy discussions over the need for an OGL at all. In the end, I don't think anyone tested the legality of publishing without using the license, probably because there was no great reason not to use the OGL.

It will be interesting to see what happens this time out.

 

[Jack99]

They have an MSRP of 10.99 on each of the new DCCs.

MSRP??

 

[Maggan]

MSRP??

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-msrp.htm

/M

 

[JVisgaitis]

Thanks for the clarification JVisgaitis. Does this mean companies cannot even say "compatible with Dungeon and Dragons" in the blurb on their websites? I mean, I know on the product, that you cannot say anything else, but surely in publicity material you can refer to the game?

I don't have the license in front of me, but I'm pretty sure, yes. Even with 3rd Edition stuff, you'd never see a company say that except for the approved usage text.

EDIT: The only approved text is the compatibility logo IIRC.

 

[hong]

MSRP??

Microsoft Retail Price

 

[Jack99]

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-msrp.htm

/M

Thanks. That's cheap.

 

[catsclaw227]

At first glance, I thought that they might have decided to make the Master Dungeons series (Master Dungeons M1: Dragora's Dungeon) their 4e product line and keep DCC OGL, but looking at the product details, the newer DCCs and Master Dungeons are both 4e products.

Under the GSL, what would this mean to previous DCCs that are currently being sold under the OGL? How are they getting around the Product Line issue?

 

[Ydars]

The simple answer is this; they CANNOT be using the GSL!

They may be using a special license they have negotiated with WoTC but you cannot release material before Oct 1st under GSL and this stuff is coming out in August.

My guess is that they either have a special license or have decided to test the waters with regard to copyright law.

Interesting times indeed!

 

[JVisgaitis]

Under the GSL, what would this mean to previous DCCs that are currently being sold under the OGL? How are they getting around the Product Line issue?

Who said they are getting around it?

Upon the first publication date of a Conversion, Licensee will cease all manufacturing and publication of the corresponding Converted OGL Product and all other OGL Products which are part of the same product line as the Converted OGL Product, as reasonably determined by Wizards (“Converted OGL Product Line”). Licensee explicitly agrees that it will not thereafter manufacture or publish any portion of the Converted OGL Product Line, or any products that would be considered part of a Converted OGL Product Line (as reasonably determined by Wizards) pursuant to the OGL. Licensee may continue to distribute and sell-off all remaining physical inventory of a Converted OGL Product Line after the corresponding Conversion is published, but will, as of such date, cease all publication, distribution and sale (and ensure that third party affiliates of Licensee cease their publication, distribution and sale) of any element of a Converted OGL Product Line in any electronic downloadable format.

They have a sell off period of all physical stock and they need to cease selling electronic PDFs immediately. We'll see what happens when they are released, but this is right in line with the GSL so far.