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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4515004" data-attributes="member: 48965">Ok, first...no one is asking for this (Nice hyperbole by the way). No one in this thread claimed all the rules should be in the starter set. What they did claim was that the starter set should give an overall experience of the game. How would having character creation rules...or even some form of limited selection in advancement up to level 3 be "the entirety of the D&D game in the "starter" set" ?  Again why can't they give a limited (as in 1 to 3 or 1 to 5 levels) experience that showcases all aspects of the game. Why do you keep claiming that the entire rules would have to be in a starter set to give people what they are basically asking for? I mean I believe one of the old basic box sets only had rules up to 3rd level (that's not the entire game). And WotC has done this before with the Black Dragon Basic Set for 3.5.  That doesn't necessarily make it good either. Those Quickstart rules WotC has sold in KotS and in the starter set are the type of thing White Wolf gives away free when releasing new games, including an adventure. WotC wants to grow the hobby, then as the rpg company making the most money and with the highest marketshare they have a greater ability to make up loss for products like this...yet they seem more intent on short term profit (as in selling things like the quickstart rules) than actually growing the hobby. As far as this set changing a kids life...I'd wager they'll play it a few times, but it's not something they'd go back to after the characters hit 3rd level. You'd be better off getting them an rpg like Labyrinth Lords, Basic Fantasy or Castles and Crusades, you know one that actually brings the value of the red box type sets and cost around the same price as this starter set, without anything additional to buy. I just don't see this set enticing kids to choose those three $100+ books over the next videogame...or even a fun boardgame.</blockquote>

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