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<blockquote data-quote="mudlock" data-source="post: 5652205" data-attributes="member: 95211"><p>Marked.</p><p></p><p>Marked works the same way. So it's not like there isn't some precedent for handling this stuff. And there's precedent for being confused, as all the "does my Aegis (or Divine Challenge) apply to all my marks?" threads will attest (thankfully, those have mostly died down now.)</p><p></p><p>A power can say "you mark the target" or "the target is marked" or "the target is marked by you" and we all know what that means. But since there's no power called simply "mark", that's only a cause of confusion in so far as far as people confuse the powers called "Aegis" and "Divine Challenge," which mark, with other powers that mark. Grab-the-condition, though, has the additional problem that the most-common power that grabs is ACTUALLY CALLED grab as well!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a significant limitation for a sword-and-board fighter whose main stick is to push things around to not be able to push huge creatures, too. And yet, they went to the trouble of including it in the rules for them, but not for the grappler. Curious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mudlock, post: 5652205, member: 95211"] Marked. Marked works the same way. So it's not like there isn't some precedent for handling this stuff. And there's precedent for being confused, as all the "does my Aegis (or Divine Challenge) apply to all my marks?" threads will attest (thankfully, those have mostly died down now.) A power can say "you mark the target" or "the target is marked" or "the target is marked by you" and we all know what that means. But since there's no power called simply "mark", that's only a cause of confusion in so far as far as people confuse the powers called "Aegis" and "Divine Challenge," which mark, with other powers that mark. Grab-the-condition, though, has the additional problem that the most-common power that grabs is ACTUALLY CALLED grab as well! It's a significant limitation for a sword-and-board fighter whose main stick is to push things around to not be able to push huge creatures, too. And yet, they went to the trouble of including it in the rules for them, but not for the grappler. Curious. [/QUOTE]
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