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<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 9186298" data-attributes="member: 6799660">You're arguing the specifics of what counts as a lot of money, not the primary point that the rule, as presented and interpreted literally*, creates a caricature of a real flawed/limited person. *which, honestly, is not 'twist[ing] the language' -- you may disagree on what 'should' count, but that's a disagreement between you and FormerlyHemlock, not them twisting or abusing (FWIW, I take from context that they are framing this in a fantasy milieu, where cash-on-person more likely can be total-cash). Regardless, I think Absent Minded (3e) is perhaps a better illustration, having less required interpretation. It goes, &quot;The classic disadvantage for eccentric geniuses. You have difficulty paying attention to anything not of immediate interest. An absent-minded person suffers a -5 penalty to any IQ roll except those for a task he is currently interested in and concentrating upon. If no engaging task or topic presents itself, his attention will drift to more interesting matters in five minutes; he will ignore his immediate surroundings until something catches his attention and brings him back. Once adrift in his own thoughts, an absent-minded character must roll against IQ-5 in order to notice any events short of personal physical injury.&quot; Now, that's certainly something one might want to roleplay, and maybe what is required to justify the -15 point value*, but it's also definitely the children's cartoon version of what having an attention disorder is like. *between here and the Hero System discussion, I think I've made my position clear on exactly how credible I take the notion of the point system really meaning anything non-tautological.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 9186298, member: 6799660"] You're arguing the specifics of what counts as a lot of money, not the primary point that the rule, as presented and interpreted literally*, creates a caricature of a real flawed/limited person. [COLOR=#d1d5d8]*which, honestly, is not 'twist[ing] the language' -- you may disagree on what 'should' count, but that's a disagreement between you and FormerlyHemlock, not them twisting or abusing (FWIW, I take from context that they are framing this in a fantasy milieu, where cash-on-person more likely can be total-cash). [/COLOR] Regardless, I think Absent Minded (3e) is perhaps a better illustration, having less required interpretation. It goes, "[I]The classic disadvantage for eccentric geniuses. You have difficulty paying attention to anything not of immediate interest. An absent-minded person suffers a -5 penalty to any IQ roll except those for a task he is currently interested in and concentrating upon. If no engaging task or topic presents itself, his attention will drift to more interesting matters in five minutes; he will ignore his immediate surroundings until something catches his attention and brings him back. Once adrift in his own thoughts, an absent-minded character must roll against IQ-5 in order to [I]notice[/I] any events short of personal physical injury.[/I]" Now, that's certainly something one might want to roleplay, and maybe what is required to justify the -15 point value*, but it's also definitely the children's cartoon version of what having an attention disorder is like. [COLOR=rgb(209, 213, 216)]*between here and the Hero System discussion, I think I've made my position clear on exactly how credible I take the notion of the point system really meaning anything non-tautological.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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