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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9357138" data-attributes="member: 6779310">THinking about just the roughly 10 campaign years of FFG SW games I'v run...about 40 players across that time frame. I've had 1 who was unable to grasp the dice mechanics. He died two years later of an astrocytoma. He was probably already suffering from it.I've had 3 who grasped it but didn't like it at all. None of those were diehard D&amp;D types, either.I've had 10 who only worked advantage disadvantage from the purchase lists or other players suggestions for non-list elements. 5 of those stayed strictly to the clear mechanical effects, most commonly as add a blue to X's next action,&nbsp; add a blue to next ally's action, add a black to X's next action, add a black to next opponent-side action, or do a critical hit. So, yeah, it's not universally graspable, nor loved by everyone. But my regular players have largely loved it.the other 25+? at least occasionally don't use the list, most liked the special lists for special situations, even tho' those slightly slow play.And when it comes to the &quot;List only&quot; players, not a one has complained about it being unfair that a team of stormtroopers showed up on the PC's despair result. Or that their quadruple despair blew up the gun in the turret they were firing... tho' that latter was annoyed that they took a mess of personal damage (personal scale = vehicle scale.)I do agree that the key weaknesses are the range band rules and vehicle combat - i simply switched to using 10m per personal combat movement action (taken from WEG 1e), Speed ×10 movement units per movement action in space combat. It worked really well that way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 9357138, member: 6779310"] THinking about just the roughly 10 campaign years of FFG SW games I'v run... about 40 players across that time frame. I've had 1 who was unable to grasp the dice mechanics. He died two years later of an astrocytoma. He was probably already suffering from it. I've had 3 who grasped it but didn't like it at all. None of those were diehard D&D types, either. I've had 10 who only worked advantage disadvantage from the purchase lists or other players suggestions for non-list elements. 5 of those stayed strictly to the clear mechanical effects, most commonly as [U]add a blue to X's next action[/U], [U]add a blue to next ally's action[/U], [U]add a black to X's next action[/U], add [U]a black to next opponent-side action[/U], or [U]do a critical hit[/U]. So, yeah, it's not universally graspable, nor loved by everyone. But my regular players have largely loved it. the other 25+? at least occasionally don't use the list, most liked the special lists for special situations, even tho' those slightly slow play. And when it comes to the "List only" players, not a one has complained about it being unfair that a team of stormtroopers showed up on the PC's despair result. Or that their quadruple despair blew up the gun in the turret they were firing... tho' that latter was annoyed that they took a mess of personal damage (personal scale = vehicle scale.) [B][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]I do agree that the key weaknesses are the range band rules and vehicle combat [/COLOR][/B]- i simply switched to using 10m per personal combat movement action (taken from WEG 1e), Speed ×10 movement units per movement action in space combat. It worked really well that way. [/QUOTE]

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