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<blockquote data-quote="Zurai" data-source="post: 4305667" data-attributes="member: 52324"><p>I was making a Joan of Arc build last night for fun and came across an oddity in the Warlord's power list.</p><p></p><p>Great Dragon War Cry is a level 23 <strong>Encounter</strong> power that, in addition to dealing damage and weakening the enemy for a round (fairly standard stuff), also gives a buff to your entire party <em>until the end of the encounter</em> (+Warlord's Cha to hit vs weakened enemies) if you're the right Warlord build. As far as I can tell, this is unique. Usually Encounter powers last until the end of your next turn. It usually takes a Daily power to last for the entire encounter.</p><p></p><p>Note that it isn't even "against this target, if it's weakened". It's "against weakened enemies". You could blow the power on a minion and still have it affect the BBEG for the entire encounter, assuming someone could keep him weakened. On top of that, the magnitude of the bonus is going to be huge - +5-6 at an absolute minimum. That's enough to make even the really big boys sit up and listen. And it's not like Weakened is a weak condition, either.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, am I crazy in thinking this is probably a mistake of some sort, that it should be "until end of your next turn" like every other Encounter power?</p><p></p><p>BTW, here's the Joan of Arc build, for the curious...[sblock=Joan of Arc]<strong>Joan of Arc</strong></p><p><strong>Female Human Warlord 30 (Justiciar, Demigod)</strong> </p><p></p><p><strong>Str:</strong> 28 (+9)</p><p><strong>Con:</strong> 16 (+3)</p><p><strong>Dex:</strong> 10 (+0)</p><p><strong>Int:</strong> 15 (+2)</p><p><strong>Wis:</strong> 12 (+1)</p><p><strong>Cha:</strong> 24 (+7)</p><p></p><p><strong>Hit Points:</strong> 188 <strong>Bloodied:</strong> 94</p><p><strong>Healing Surge:</strong> 50 <strong>Surges per day:</strong> 10</p><p><strong>Initiative:</strong> +28 (roll twice, take better) <strong>Speed:</strong> 6</p><p><strong>Perception:</strong> 32 <strong>Insight:</strong> 32</p><p><strong>Action Points:</strong> 1</p><p></p><p><strong>AC</strong> 48 <strong>Fortitude</strong> 42 <strong>Reflex</strong> 36 <strong>Will</strong> 40; +1 vs non-melee</p><p></p><p><strong>Basic Melee Attack:</strong> +33 <strong>Damage:</strong> 2d8+9</p><p></p><p><strong>Skills:</strong></p><p>[code]</p><p>Athletics +31 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +9 Strength, +6 Item -4 ACP)</p><p>Diplomacy +27 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +7 Charisma)</p><p>Endurance +25 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +3 Constitution, +6 Item, -4 ACP)</p><p>Heal +21 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +1 Wisdom)</p><p>History +22 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +2 Intelligence)</p><p>Religion +22 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +2 Intelligence)</p><p>[/code]</p><p></p><p><strong>Feats:</strong></p><p>Toughness</p><p>Armor Proficiency: Scale</p><p>Shield Proficiency: Heavy</p><p>Inspired Recovery</p><p>Soldier of the Faith</p><p>Combat Commander</p><p>Mettle</p><p>Action Surge</p><p>Human Perserverance</p><p>Armor Proficiency: Plate</p><p>Armor Specialization: Plate</p><p>Improved Initiative</p><p>Mounted Combat</p><p>Action Recovery</p><p>Danger Sense</p><p>Combat Anticipation</p><p>Novice Power</p><p>Acolyte Power</p><p>Adept Power</p><p></p><p><strong>Languages:</strong></p><p>Common</p><p>*</p><p></p><p><strong>Class and Racial abilities:</strong> </p><p>Combat Leader</p><p>Inspiring Presence</p><p>Inspiring Word</p><p>Just Action</p><p>Just Spirit</p><p>Just Shelter</p><p>Divine Spark</p><p>Divine Recovery</p><p>Divine Miracle</p><p></p><p><strong>Powers:</strong></p><p>Furious Smash (At-Will Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs Fortitude, Str damage to target + buff ally)</p><p>Viper's Strike (At-Will Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Normal damage + OA if target shifts)</p><p>Wolf Pack Tactics (At-Will Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Normal damage + ally shifts)</p><p></p><p>Great Dragon War Cry (Encounter Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Moderate damage + target weakened + allies get +7 to hit weakened targets for encounter)</p><p>Battle On (Encounter Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Moderate damage + allies makes save at +7)</p><p>Deific Vengeance (Encounter Attack, Immediate Reaction Ranged 20, +30 vs Fortitude, Strong damage + target weakened after being attacked)</p><p>Just Radiance (Encounter Attack (Paragon), Standard Close Burst 5, +28 vs Will, Normal damage + targets must attack you; targets must be marked by you)</p><p></p><p>Victory Surge (Daily Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Normal damage + allies can follow standard action with basic attack; sustain minor)</p><p>Stand Invincible (Daily Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Extreme damage + you and all nearby allies gain +4 defenses and resist 5 damage; sustain minor)</p><p>One Stands Alone (Daily Attack, Standard Close Burst 1, +28 vs Will, Moderate damage + weakened until save; must not have nearby allies)</p><p>Challenge the Unjust (Daily Attack, Standard Close Burst 10, +28 vs Will, Moderate damage + target is marked)</p><p></p><p>Inspiring Word (Encounter Utility, Minor Close Burst 15, You or ally can use healing surge + 6d6; 3/encounter, 1/round)</p><p>Shake It Off (Encounter Utility, Minor Ranged 10, You or ally makes save at +7)</p><p>Warlord's Banner (Encounter Utility, Standard Close Burst 5, Allies can use a healing surge and get +2 to attack rolls)</p><p>Wrath of the Gods (Daily Utility, Minor Close Burst 1, You and adjacent allies add +7 to damage for encounter)</p><p>Defensive Rally (Daily Utility, Standard Close Burst 5, Allies can use a healing surge, save, and get +2 defenses)</p><p>Heroic Surge (Daily Utility, Immediate Reaction Close Burst 5, You and allies can use a healing surge after being hit)</p><p>Strike Me Instead (Daily Utility (Paragon), Immediate Interrupt Close Burst 5, Enemy's attack misses all allies but automatically hits you)</p><p>Divine Regeneration (Daily Utility (Epic), Minor Personal, You gain regeneration 28 for encounter)</p><p></p><p><strong>Equipment:</strong></p><p>Dwarven Godplate +6</p><p>Holy Avenger Longsword +6</p><p>Guardian Heavy Shield (Heroic)</p><p>Battlestrider Greaves</p><p>Gloves of Piercing</p><p>Cloak of Resistance +6</p><p>Ring of Protection</p><p>Ring of Regeneration</p><p>Dynamic Belt +6</p><p>Ioun Stone of True Sight[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zurai, post: 4305667, member: 52324"] I was making a Joan of Arc build last night for fun and came across an oddity in the Warlord's power list. Great Dragon War Cry is a level 23 [b]Encounter[/b] power that, in addition to dealing damage and weakening the enemy for a round (fairly standard stuff), also gives a buff to your entire party [i]until the end of the encounter[/i] (+Warlord's Cha to hit vs weakened enemies) if you're the right Warlord build. As far as I can tell, this is unique. Usually Encounter powers last until the end of your next turn. It usually takes a Daily power to last for the entire encounter. Note that it isn't even "against this target, if it's weakened". It's "against weakened enemies". You could blow the power on a minion and still have it affect the BBEG for the entire encounter, assuming someone could keep him weakened. On top of that, the magnitude of the bonus is going to be huge - +5-6 at an absolute minimum. That's enough to make even the really big boys sit up and listen. And it's not like Weakened is a weak condition, either. Anyway, am I crazy in thinking this is probably a mistake of some sort, that it should be "until end of your next turn" like every other Encounter power? BTW, here's the Joan of Arc build, for the curious...[sblock=Joan of Arc][b]Joan of Arc[/b] [b]Female Human Warlord 30 (Justiciar, Demigod)[/b] [b]Str:[/b] 28 (+9) [b]Con:[/b] 16 (+3) [b]Dex:[/b] 10 (+0) [b]Int:[/b] 15 (+2) [b]Wis:[/b] 12 (+1) [b]Cha:[/b] 24 (+7) [b]Hit Points:[/b] 188 [b]Bloodied:[/b] 94 [b]Healing Surge:[/b] 50 [b]Surges per day:[/b] 10 [b]Initiative:[/b] +28 (roll twice, take better) [b]Speed:[/b] 6 [b]Perception:[/b] 32 [b]Insight:[/b] 32 [b]Action Points:[/b] 1 [b]AC[/b] 48 [b]Fortitude[/b] 42 [b]Reflex[/b] 36 [b]Will[/b] 40; +1 vs non-melee [b]Basic Melee Attack:[/b] +33 [b]Damage:[/b] 2d8+9 [b]Skills:[/b] [code] Athletics +31 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +9 Strength, +6 Item -4 ACP) Diplomacy +27 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +7 Charisma) Endurance +25 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +3 Constitution, +6 Item, -4 ACP) Heal +21 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +1 Wisdom) History +22 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +2 Intelligence) Religion +22 (5 Trained, +15 Level, +2 Intelligence) [/code] [b]Feats:[/b] Toughness Armor Proficiency: Scale Shield Proficiency: Heavy Inspired Recovery Soldier of the Faith Combat Commander Mettle Action Surge Human Perserverance Armor Proficiency: Plate Armor Specialization: Plate Improved Initiative Mounted Combat Action Recovery Danger Sense Combat Anticipation Novice Power Acolyte Power Adept Power [b]Languages:[/b] Common * [b]Class and Racial abilities:[/b] Combat Leader Inspiring Presence Inspiring Word Just Action Just Spirit Just Shelter Divine Spark Divine Recovery Divine Miracle [b]Powers:[/b] Furious Smash (At-Will Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs Fortitude, Str damage to target + buff ally) Viper's Strike (At-Will Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Normal damage + OA if target shifts) Wolf Pack Tactics (At-Will Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Normal damage + ally shifts) Great Dragon War Cry (Encounter Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Moderate damage + target weakened + allies get +7 to hit weakened targets for encounter) Battle On (Encounter Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Moderate damage + allies makes save at +7) Deific Vengeance (Encounter Attack, Immediate Reaction Ranged 20, +30 vs Fortitude, Strong damage + target weakened after being attacked) Just Radiance (Encounter Attack (Paragon), Standard Close Burst 5, +28 vs Will, Normal damage + targets must attack you; targets must be marked by you) Victory Surge (Daily Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Normal damage + allies can follow standard action with basic attack; sustain minor) Stand Invincible (Daily Attack, Standard Melee, +33 vs AC, Extreme damage + you and all nearby allies gain +4 defenses and resist 5 damage; sustain minor) One Stands Alone (Daily Attack, Standard Close Burst 1, +28 vs Will, Moderate damage + weakened until save; must not have nearby allies) Challenge the Unjust (Daily Attack, Standard Close Burst 10, +28 vs Will, Moderate damage + target is marked) Inspiring Word (Encounter Utility, Minor Close Burst 15, You or ally can use healing surge + 6d6; 3/encounter, 1/round) Shake It Off (Encounter Utility, Minor Ranged 10, You or ally makes save at +7) Warlord's Banner (Encounter Utility, Standard Close Burst 5, Allies can use a healing surge and get +2 to attack rolls) Wrath of the Gods (Daily Utility, Minor Close Burst 1, You and adjacent allies add +7 to damage for encounter) Defensive Rally (Daily Utility, Standard Close Burst 5, Allies can use a healing surge, save, and get +2 defenses) Heroic Surge (Daily Utility, Immediate Reaction Close Burst 5, You and allies can use a healing surge after being hit) Strike Me Instead (Daily Utility (Paragon), Immediate Interrupt Close Burst 5, Enemy's attack misses all allies but automatically hits you) Divine Regeneration (Daily Utility (Epic), Minor Personal, You gain regeneration 28 for encounter) [B]Equipment:[/B] Dwarven Godplate +6 Holy Avenger Longsword +6 Guardian Heavy Shield (Heroic) Battlestrider Greaves Gloves of Piercing Cloak of Resistance +6 Ring of Protection Ring of Regeneration Dynamic Belt +6 Ioun Stone of True Sight[/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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