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Greater Invis and Stealth checks, how do you rule it?
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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8098168" data-attributes="member: 7025508"><p>What if there is no grass? What if it is a clean stone floor? Or what if it is heavy, powdery snow? Certainly it matters a huge deal which it is? In first case there literally there is nothing to see, in latter there will be clear tacks and snow flying in the air. A colossal difference. You just cant treat these situations as the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p>First of, I'd argue that 'hiding' is a bit more than just not intentionally causing a ruckus and even ignoring that, certainly noticing things that can be both seen and heard should be massively easier than noticing one that can merely be heard. Especially as being visible is something that creatures normally passively do whilst causing noise really isn't. Furthermore, vision is primary sense for most creatures, and even for those for which it isn't, it is still the best sense of accurately assessing position of things. </p><p></p><p>Yes, on that we agree. But several people have argued otherwise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 8098168, member: 7025508"] What if there is no grass? What if it is a clean stone floor? Or what if it is heavy, powdery snow? Certainly it matters a huge deal which it is? In first case there literally there is nothing to see, in latter there will be clear tacks and snow flying in the air. A colossal difference. You just cant treat these situations as the same. First of, I'd argue that 'hiding' is a bit more than just not intentionally causing a ruckus and even ignoring that, certainly noticing things that can be both seen and heard should be massively easier than noticing one that can merely be heard. Especially as being visible is something that creatures normally passively do whilst causing noise really isn't. Furthermore, vision is primary sense for most creatures, and even for those for which it isn't, it is still the best sense of accurately assessing position of things. Yes, on that we agree. But several people have argued otherwise. [/QUOTE]
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