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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8099287" data-attributes="member: 6801845">I got a chuckle out of this one.&nbsp; Sure, if the supermarket is empty and the runner is wearing wooden clogs, maybe.&nbsp; Now do it while someone is talking to you, much less trying to bash your head in with a mace.&nbsp; In my games you generally will know where an invisible person is if they are adjacent and engaged in combat, but a hundred feet away?&nbsp; You may know the direction they took off.In any case I just popped in because I spent a few minutes last night re-listening to that podcast that you claim &quot;proves&quot; your point.&nbsp; Except it doesn't.&nbsp; In fact Crawford directly contradicts it. You can listen to it <a href="https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/james-haeck-dd-writing" target="_blank">here </a>starting at 28:40. My transcript of that section:&quot;In some cases the DM will decide that an invisible person' location is unknown to combatants [because of] the environment and the character's attentiveness it's really up to the DM ... even though she never bothered to hide ...&quot;So the author of the rule directly contradicts you.&nbsp; I mean, run it whatever way you want.&nbsp; Make the assumption that when you run a game you always know where the person is.&nbsp; It's your game.&nbsp; Just stop saying the rules say something they don't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8099287, member: 6801845"] I got a chuckle out of this one. Sure, if the supermarket is empty and the runner is wearing wooden clogs, maybe. Now do it while someone is talking to you, much less trying to bash your head in with a mace. In my games you generally will know where an invisible person is if they are adjacent and engaged in combat, but a hundred feet away? You may know the direction they took off. In any case I just popped in because I spent a few minutes last night re-listening to that podcast that you claim "proves" your point. Except it doesn't. In fact Crawford directly contradicts it. You can listen to it [URL='https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/james-haeck-dd-writing']here [/URL]starting at 28:40. My transcript of that section: [INDENT]"In some cases the DM will decide that an [B]invisible person' location is unknown[/B] to combatants [because of] the environment and the character's attentiveness it's really up to the DM ... [B]even though she never bothered to hide[/B] ..."[/INDENT] So the author of the rule directly contradicts you. I mean, run it whatever way you want. Make the assumption that when you run a game you always know where the person is. It's your game. Just stop saying the rules say something they don't. [/QUOTE]

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