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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8099512" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Sure, you can posit a grey area that big.&nbsp; The podcast, though, doesn't.&nbsp; I don't think the rules do.&nbsp; People are free to posit otherwise -- it's the spice of the game after all -- but my issue was claiming that the podcast makes the large grey area claim because it acknowledges some grey area.&nbsp; I also have an issue with the argument that if grey areas exist, approaches are not meaningfully different.&nbsp; In the analogy, the grey area is near the 1st yard line, usually within a foot of it.&nbsp; It's not so large as to be 8 yards away from it.&nbsp; A system of adjudication that has a small grey area is not functionally similar to one that has a large grey (or all grey, as in this case) area.&nbsp; That was the intent of the analogy and my point -- we're not doing the same thing at different scales, we're actually doing different thing even in parts of those things look similar.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8099512, member: 16814"] Sure, you can posit a grey area that big. The podcast, though, doesn't. I don't think the rules do. People are free to posit otherwise -- it's the spice of the game after all -- but my issue was claiming that the podcast makes the large grey area claim because it acknowledges some grey area. I also have an issue with the argument that if grey areas exist, approaches are not meaningfully different. In the analogy, the grey area is near the 1st yard line, usually within a foot of it. It's not so large as to be 8 yards away from it. A system of adjudication that has a small grey area is not functionally similar to one that has a large grey (or all grey, as in this case) area. That was the intent of the analogy and my point -- we're not doing the same thing at different scales, we're actually doing different thing even in parts of those things look similar. [/QUOTE]

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