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Greater Invis and Stealth checks, how do you rule it?
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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8099517" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>Sneaking is done in combat via the Hide action.</p><p></p><p>Just because they called it 'Hide' dont let that confuse you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, its actually the other way around.</p><p></p><p>The Hiding (making yourself unseen) is easy. You simply move into total cover (or heavy obscurement) or otherwise make yourself unseen. </p><p></p><p>Once you're unseen (or 'unable to be seen clearly') you can attempt to be quiet with a Stealth check to 'Hide' (via the Hide action).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Quietly tip-toeing around and trying to be quiet while unseen (invisible) is Hiding. Its what the Stealth skill does and is for, and what the Hide action lets you do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. You reveal yourself from hiding when you attacked (hit or miss). At the end of your movement (after you moved away) seeing as you havent again become hidden, the game assumes your target has a rough idea where you are (enough to make weapon and spell attacks against you at disadvantage this round). You can always Hide whenever you want seeing as you're invisible though (on your next turn, using your action).</p><p></p><p>You could do the above if you're a Rogue however</p><p></p><p>Move 10 feet (invisible and hidden). Use Attack action to attack. Use Hide action (as a bonus action via cunning action) to re-enter Hiding.</p><p></p><p>Then you could move where you damn well wanted and your enemy wouldnt have a clue where you are without a lucky guess.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Hide action (and the Stealth skill) is used for hiding (as defined in the game, as 'any time you want to make your character unheard while he is also unseen').</p><p></p><p>It covers sneaking up behind someone who has his back to you, or when you want to be silent and sneaky when using cover, heavy obscurement or invisiblity. You take the Hide action, and roll Stealth (you sneaking up while unseen) vs their passive perception.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8099517, member: 6788736"] Sneaking is done in combat via the Hide action. Just because they called it 'Hide' dont let that confuse you. No, its actually the other way around. The Hiding (making yourself unseen) is easy. You simply move into total cover (or heavy obscurement) or otherwise make yourself unseen. Once you're unseen (or 'unable to be seen clearly') you can attempt to be quiet with a Stealth check to 'Hide' (via the Hide action). Quietly tip-toeing around and trying to be quiet while unseen (invisible) is Hiding. Its what the Stealth skill does and is for, and what the Hide action lets you do. Nope. You reveal yourself from hiding when you attacked (hit or miss). At the end of your movement (after you moved away) seeing as you havent again become hidden, the game assumes your target has a rough idea where you are (enough to make weapon and spell attacks against you at disadvantage this round). You can always Hide whenever you want seeing as you're invisible though (on your next turn, using your action). You could do the above if you're a Rogue however Move 10 feet (invisible and hidden). Use Attack action to attack. Use Hide action (as a bonus action via cunning action) to re-enter Hiding. Then you could move where you damn well wanted and your enemy wouldnt have a clue where you are without a lucky guess. The Hide action (and the Stealth skill) is used for hiding (as defined in the game, as 'any time you want to make your character unheard while he is also unseen'). It covers sneaking up behind someone who has his back to you, or when you want to be silent and sneaky when using cover, heavy obscurement or invisiblity. You take the Hide action, and roll Stealth (you sneaking up while unseen) vs their passive perception. [/QUOTE]
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