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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8099593" data-attributes="member: 6855114">Not if you don't want to hide but not to be heard. Moving silently is part of sneaking. Sneaking is a part of hidding and you can't hide without sneaking but it is not true the other way around. You can sneak without hidding.Here are two example.Bob the warlock is invisible, under the parapet and does not want to be heard by the the guard above. All he has to do, is moving silently, all the while, Bob is searching for the secret door his contact told him was near this spot. By your way of ruling, Bob would not be able to do both as he is a warlock (a sneaky one at that, bad boy...).Here, no need of hidding, the character is invisible. But the need to be silent is there. Bob is under the parapet, out of line of sight (there is a blind spot on parapets in case you don't know.) So no need for hidding but the need for being silent is vital. Of course, Sneaky Goyle the rogue would not need invisibility as he can always use the hide action as an action bonus and keep searching. Sneaky Goyle does not need as many resources as poor Bob. It is the advantage of being a rogue. It is a lot less costly to get things done.The room of suffocating silenceBob is in a room that amplifies sound up to the point of causing damage to any source (thunder blast equivalent for a failed stealth check). But Bob must also keep drinking a quaff of the solution of shmoofbank to keep breathing the poisonous gas that is in the room. Again, by your rule, Bob would not be able to do this. Skill checks are not actions as per the rules anyway (unless specified). So by my interpretation, Bob can do these things but he needs to spend resources (potentially costly too) that Sneaky Goyle would not be obliged to use. The rogue does this without much trouble and at both better action economy and resource costs than Bob.</blockquote>

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