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Greater Invis and Stealth checks, how do you rule it?
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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8099983" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>OK I admit it. You're doing it right and the rest of the world barring [USER=6855114]@Helldritch[/USER] (but including the guy that wrote the rules) are doing it wrong.</p><p></p><p>Jebers man. Youre utterly totally and hopelessly wrong here. I dont know how else I can show that to you. I've tried showing you the rules, and Ive referred to consenus, and I've even given you commentary from the guy that wrote the rules on how it's supposed to work.</p><p></p><p>Please, pause for a second and consider the fact that you might actually be wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>THERE IS NO DAREDEVIL INTERPRETATION.</p><p></p><p>When you make an attack from Hiding, you reveal yourself for <em>a few seconds</em> (till the start of your next turn when you can again take the Hide action if you want).</p><p></p><p>If you want to run around the battlefield making absolutely NO effort to be quiet while invisible (represented in game via the Hide action) that's on you.</p><p></p><p>As long as you do so (race around not making any effort to hide, be quiet or conceal your location) nearby enemies can make SOME attacks against you (at disadvantage). They cant make opportunity attacks, they cant cast most spells on you, and you're immune to being targeted by multiple special abilities.</p><p></p><p>They have a very (very) rough idea of your general location, because you're making no effort to be quiet and hide while invisible.</p><p></p><p>Lucky for you you're invisible. You can attempt to Hide (as an action) whenever you darn well want to.</p><p></p><p>Daredevil has <strong>Blindsight</strong>. You cant hide from him <em>ever </em>within his Blindsight radius even if you wanted to and had a Stealth bonus of +50, if you were hidden, and he moves so you're inside his blindsight range, he automatically detects you, he doesn't need sight to target you with his attacks and spells, and can 'see' you without sight (so no disadvantage to his attacks, and you'll never have advantage against him due to being invisible or hidden).</p><p></p><p>That's a pretty huge difference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8099983, member: 6788736"] OK I admit it. You're doing it right and the rest of the world barring [USER=6855114]@Helldritch[/USER] (but including the guy that wrote the rules) are doing it wrong. Jebers man. Youre utterly totally and hopelessly wrong here. I dont know how else I can show that to you. I've tried showing you the rules, and Ive referred to consenus, and I've even given you commentary from the guy that wrote the rules on how it's supposed to work. Please, pause for a second and consider the fact that you might actually be wrong. THERE IS NO DAREDEVIL INTERPRETATION. When you make an attack from Hiding, you reveal yourself for [I]a few seconds[/I] (till the start of your next turn when you can again take the Hide action if you want). If you want to run around the battlefield making absolutely NO effort to be quiet while invisible (represented in game via the Hide action) that's on you. As long as you do so (race around not making any effort to hide, be quiet or conceal your location) nearby enemies can make SOME attacks against you (at disadvantage). They cant make opportunity attacks, they cant cast most spells on you, and you're immune to being targeted by multiple special abilities. They have a very (very) rough idea of your general location, because you're making no effort to be quiet and hide while invisible. Lucky for you you're invisible. You can attempt to Hide (as an action) whenever you darn well want to. Daredevil has [B]Blindsight[/B]. You cant hide from him [I]ever [/I]within his Blindsight radius even if you wanted to and had a Stealth bonus of +50, if you were hidden, and he moves so you're inside his blindsight range, he automatically detects you, he doesn't need sight to target you with his attacks and spells, and can 'see' you without sight (so no disadvantage to his attacks, and you'll never have advantage against him due to being invisible or hidden). That's a pretty huge difference. [/QUOTE]
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