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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 3039773" data-attributes="member: 1757"><p>Actually, the grey box setting contains the following snippet of text in the "Deities of the Realms" section:</p><p></p><p>"There are those in the Realms who reject the power of these self-claimed "deities," or choose to follow none of these gods as their own. The failure ofthe sky to fall upon the heads of these individuals indicates this is as good a course as pledging one's allegiance to a faith or deity."</p><p></p><p>It's only with the Avatar trilogy and its subsequent books (which, incidentally, detail circumstances that never happened in Ed's own games, and which he's stated several times he'd preferred had never happened to the Realms in general) that deities became interventionist.</p><p></p><p>As to the novels... well, you can't win 'em all. Ed blames TSR's Code of Conduct, but I think that the fault's also his, per books like Elminster in Hell, etc. I've never actually read an FR novel, though; the few pages of Return of the Archwizards I made it through convinced me to simply avoid them.</p><p>I believe eyebeams is referring to what Ed discusses in the 2e Seven Sisters sourcebook, which is that the CoM should be used as models for your own Realms campaign's high-level NPCs or PCs... as examples of what characters do with their lives once they've reached lofty levels. </p><p></p><p>As for me: I run my Realms campaign with non-interventionist deities (actually, people don't really have concrete proof that the gods exist or what they are) and while there are high-level good-aligned NPCs in the world, they have their own fish to fry. It's important to keep in mind that there are still more numerous and powerful bad guys than good in the Realms: For nine Chosen of Mystra, we have twelve shade archwizards, dozens of phaerimm, hives full of beholders, undead spellcasting dragons, archliches, Thayan zulkirs, et cetera. I just always assume that one or more of those guys is keeping the CoM or whoever else busy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 3039773, member: 1757"] Actually, the grey box setting contains the following snippet of text in the "Deities of the Realms" section: "There are those in the Realms who reject the power of these self-claimed "deities," or choose to follow none of these gods as their own. The failure ofthe sky to fall upon the heads of these individuals indicates this is as good a course as pledging one's allegiance to a faith or deity." It's only with the Avatar trilogy and its subsequent books (which, incidentally, detail circumstances that never happened in Ed's own games, and which he's stated several times he'd preferred had never happened to the Realms in general) that deities became interventionist. As to the novels... well, you can't win 'em all. Ed blames TSR's Code of Conduct, but I think that the fault's also his, per books like Elminster in Hell, etc. I've never actually read an FR novel, though; the few pages of Return of the Archwizards I made it through convinced me to simply avoid them. I believe eyebeams is referring to what Ed discusses in the 2e Seven Sisters sourcebook, which is that the CoM should be used as models for your own Realms campaign's high-level NPCs or PCs... as examples of what characters do with their lives once they've reached lofty levels. As for me: I run my Realms campaign with non-interventionist deities (actually, people don't really have concrete proof that the gods exist or what they are) and while there are high-level good-aligned NPCs in the world, they have their own fish to fry. It's important to keep in mind that there are still more numerous and powerful bad guys than good in the Realms: For nine Chosen of Mystra, we have twelve shade archwizards, dozens of phaerimm, hives full of beholders, undead spellcasting dragons, archliches, Thayan zulkirs, et cetera. I just always assume that one or more of those guys is keeping the CoM or whoever else busy. [/QUOTE]
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