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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9476752" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>There should be differences, sure.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Uhhhh...no. Those would not, at all, be the only differences. If you think "living 2-3 times as long as a human <em>at least</em>" would literally have NO influence on anything else...I mean, I can't really <em>respond</em> to that. Like...just purely from the accumulation of wealth, population growth, concerns about medical care (a severe injury lasts <em>centuries</em> for an elf or dwarf!)...these things have major, wide-reaching effects on economics, infrastructure, language, and culture.</p><p></p><p>Think about it this way: Humans <em>currently</em> have the notion that someone who is 40-60 years older than the current generation is liable to hold attitudes now considered offensive, e.g. blatant racism/sexism. Now imagine if your grandparents weren't 60 years older, but <em>240</em> years older. We wouldn't be dealing with attitudes that were prevalent in 1965; we'd be dealing with attitudes that were prevalent in <strong>1785</strong>, <em>and that's just for dwarves</em>, meaning, older than the current, proper United States of America (1789). That's not at all limited to literary stuff. It's vast, sweeping swathes of culture, and implies dramatically different ways of processing and relating to events. And if we look at elves, it's 700+ years--meaning people from almost 250 years <em>before Shakespeare</em> (1325 vs 1564).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that by that standard, you are reducing things that <em>should be</em> taken seriously down to purely superficial nothing, while inflating the meaningful but not totally determinative stuff pretty massively, acting like they would totally transform society into something unrecognizable.</p><p></p><p>Near-immortality compared to human lifetimes is a huge, huge difference. Society would be nearly unrecognizable in several important ways, but these apparently don't matter and only apply to obscure literary references?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9476752, member: 6790260"] There should be differences, sure. Uhhhh...no. Those would not, at all, be the only differences. If you think "living 2-3 times as long as a human [I]at least[/I]" would literally have NO influence on anything else...I mean, I can't really [I]respond[/I] to that. Like...just purely from the accumulation of wealth, population growth, concerns about medical care (a severe injury lasts [I]centuries[/I] for an elf or dwarf!)...these things have major, wide-reaching effects on economics, infrastructure, language, and culture. Think about it this way: Humans [I]currently[/I] have the notion that someone who is 40-60 years older than the current generation is liable to hold attitudes now considered offensive, e.g. blatant racism/sexism. Now imagine if your grandparents weren't 60 years older, but [I]240[/I] years older. We wouldn't be dealing with attitudes that were prevalent in 1965; we'd be dealing with attitudes that were prevalent in [B]1785[/B], [I]and that's just for dwarves[/I], meaning, older than the current, proper United States of America (1789). That's not at all limited to literary stuff. It's vast, sweeping swathes of culture, and implies dramatically different ways of processing and relating to events. And if we look at elves, it's 700+ years--meaning people from almost 250 years [I]before Shakespeare[/I] (1325 vs 1564). Except that by that standard, you are reducing things that [I]should be[/I] taken seriously down to purely superficial nothing, while inflating the meaningful but not totally determinative stuff pretty massively, acting like they would totally transform society into something unrecognizable. Near-immortality compared to human lifetimes is a huge, huge difference. Society would be nearly unrecognizable in several important ways, but these apparently don't matter and only apply to obscure literary references? [/QUOTE]
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